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xnx 3 hours ago

Big screens are an OK workaround for no passenger windows, but they still have to contend with severe structural pressurization challenges, strict emergency evacuation rules, and incompatibility with current airport gates.

briandw 3 hours ago | parent | next [-]

In a conventional aircraft you sit on the roll axis. In a blended wing body design you can have off-axis motion that can increase motion sickness. Rather than rolling with the longitudinal axis of the aircraft, you move up and down when the aircraft banks. Not necessarily a deal breaker, but an additional difference to deal with.

JumpCrisscross 2 hours ago | parent | next [-]

> In a blended wing body design you can have off-axis motion that can increase motion sickness

This sounds fixable in avionics and training. (Shallow, gradual banks.)

Note, too, that a larger lifting body needs to bank less to execute the same turn as a craft with more loading.

amluto 37 minutes ago | parent [-]

> Note, too, that a larger lifting body needs to bank less to execute the same turn as a craft with more loading.

This is not really helpful for passenger comfort. For a turn to be comfortable, you want the turn to be such that the effective force the passengers feel has no sideways (relative to the passengers) component, and the required roll angle is only a function of the velocity and turning radius. The aircraft design is irrelevant.

The Wikipedia article is mediocre: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coordinated_flight

deadbabe 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Just gimbal the seats.

fugaziboutit 2 hours ago | parent | next [-]

New commercial seating design: Oops, All Pinch Points!

beau_g 2 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Bean bag chair seats solve every problem.

fastball 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Gimbal the floor?

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NegativeLatency 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Doesn’t fix translation?

cr125rider an hour ago | parent [-]

Simply noclip the passengers!

mmh0000 23 minutes ago | parent [-]

That only works if the engines move the planet around the airplane.

ffsm8 5 minutes ago | parent [-]

Great, so there is the solution!

JSR_FDED 21 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I don’t know how many people are claustrophobic, but for me this would be a non-starter.

Edit: apparently 12.5% of the population has claustrophobia. If 5% of flyers choose a different airline due to simulated windows that would wipe out any cost benefit from fuel savings.

azza2110 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

No way. Looking out the window is one of the joys of flying.

Picking out my house, seeing tiny cars on a remote highway, etc. Even 100+ MP cameras and high resolution screens won't come close to that level of detail.

articulatepang 2 hours ago | parent | next [-]

But are you willing to pay 10-20% more for that joy? I personally would rather pay less money to fly, not get to see out the window, and spend those dollars on, say, a fancier meal at the destination. Or to have an extra day at the destination if my trip length is money-bound rather than time-bound. Or put those dollars towards an extra hour of childcare. Or … I have so many uses for dollars that give me more utility than “see out the window while flying”.

Where that number comes from: they claim 50% reduction in fuel consumption, which sounds doubtful to me, and fuel is about a third of flight costs, and I’m making some generous assumptions around perfect competition.

karmajunkie 2 hours ago | parent [-]

it’s cute you think that’s going to show up in lower ticket costs instead of the company’s profit margin.

jrk 2 hours ago | parent [-]

Commercial air travel is extremely competitive and has very low margins.

bruce511 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Only a small fraction of current flyers get window seats. And the view from the isle seat or middle row is non-existent.

And that's before we talk about night flights when there's nothing to see, flights over water when there's nothing to see and so on.

So yes, I'm sure some people like windows. But the majority have demonstrated that they're just fine flying without them.

noduerme 26 minutes ago | parent [-]

Not to mention the cretins who put their windows down for the whole flight.

JSR_FDED 12 minutes ago | parent [-]

Except when everyone is trying to sleep and one person has their window up

noduerme 9 minutes ago | parent [-]

I've been that guy, but only if the scenery is interesting. Still, my attitude is that at noon, people don't need to have a blanket placed over their cage like parrots to make them sleep.

I also was on a flight once that had a very bouncy landing with all the windows down - when I didn't realize we were anywhere near the ground yet. I'm not into tuning out reality to that degree, and don't really feel obligated to help anyone else do so either ;)

seydor 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Skylights, Or floor windows for the freaky

carodgers 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Also the screen sizes they are showing have got to be exceedingly heavy.

hankbond 2 hours ago | parent [-]

I know every gram is accounted for in aerospace but OLEDs weighs so little, especially if you can just heatsink into existing metal structures nearby.

colordrops 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I'm fine with not looking out of the window if the seat is comfortable and I can get to the bathroom more easily. And I'm sure I'm not the only one. Window enjoyers such as yourself will still be able to get the window seats.

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evolve2k 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Be nice to not have to deal with that one guy who didn’t close their window when it’s dark cabin time on long multi-Timezone flights; leaving the sun to blare in when you’re really trying to get some shut eye.

Carrok 3 hours ago | parent [-]

Just bring a sleep mask.

bathtub365 22 minutes ago | parent [-]

I only travel in classes where I know they will provide one.

rendaw 16 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-]

What do economy seats look like? I can't imagine they all have wrap-around video...

thadk 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Would dropping airplane windows lower radiation exposure somewhat, especially on those polar routes?

jandrewrogers 2 hours ago | parent [-]

No, virtually all the radiation with the exception of UV is passing straight through the airframe. The protection an aircraft body offers is negligible.

TEHERET 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

the biggest challenge would likely be training pilots to a new cockpit and flight profile

zdc1 an hour ago | parent [-]

I wonder if it makes more sense to just get the latest batch of people doing the military -> civilian transition and starting them off on these

EGreg 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

No passenger windows is the correct way to go. The screens can actually show anything, not just replace a window.

CalRobert 12 minutes ago | parent | next [-]

Hell why even travel when you can just see Venice on a screen.

Bolwin 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Jeez way to ruin of the few remaining joys of flying. Lock everyone in a tin can. You will experience reality through screens only and you will enjoy it

EGreg 31 minutes ago | parent [-]

Yes, you will! :-)

rezokun 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Infinite ads in econom

koiueo 11 minutes ago | parent | next [-]

With 60hz pwm. And you can't turn it off

Ah... A dream

blowsand 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Scott Kirby has joined the chat

BobbyTables2 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

True - unlike a car, it’s not like one could open a window in a plane.

Just hope they don’t make an “ad-free” window a premium upgrade…