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chaosharmonic 4 hours ago

I too am a USB-C maximalist, but with a handful of differences from OP:

- You lose me at "toothbrush." I don't want personal care items that have internal batteries at all, because they'll eventually die on me while the device itself (brush heads notwithstanding) is otherwise perfectly functional. I'd much rather keep rechargeable AA(A)s on hand for that kind of stuff. (I still haven't found a good electric razor for this purpose, though, and have actually just gone back to manual for the foreseeable future.)

- I don't think I could live off just one charging port, but would rather just ditch USB-A entirely.

- I'm using wired earbuds, with a standard headphone jack, but with the number of full-sized cans that are using USB-C in some way it baffles me that there aren't more or them (or any, that I've been able to find) that also support using it for audio input, so you you can play them while charging.

bigfishrunning 7 minutes ago | parent | next [-]

I had a pair of sennheiser urbanite headphones that used USB (micro :( ) for digital audio input, and you could use them while charging. Was shocked and disappointed when i eventually replaced them with Audio Technica ones that could only charge via USB but didn't do audio via USB, only bluetooth or analog.

I agree (and am sad) that it's not a ubiquitous feature, but headphones with a built-in dac do exist

rogerrogerr 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Re. toothbrush, I have to take the opportunity to give Philips credit for the Sonicare electric toothbrushes they made ~15 years ago. That thing just keeps trucking, it’s incredible. I go on 2 week trips and don’t even bring the charger, and have no worries about it dying.

It must have been crazy overspecced, I expected it to be a 5-year disposable piece of non-serviceable tech.

m463 2 hours ago | parent | next [-]

I have a sonicare. great. The travel case it came with is actually an inductive charging case with a USB-A hidden inside ready to be unfurled.

rootusrootus 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Yeah I was going to say, I'm at 20 years on a Sonicare (pushing 25 now that I remember it is 2026, damn...) and it still works fine. Holds a charge long enough that I've never run out on vacation.

sudobash1 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Also, it looses functionality gracefully in that it is still a perfectly serviceable toothbrush even if it is out of battery.

That said, I have never had a Sonicare run out of battery either.

moffkalast 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Ha I thought mine was on the verge of dying after a good few years of use (amazon reviews were all like, yeah it only lasted a two years), so I ordered a new one, but the old one keeps going so I keep the new one in reserve looming over it menacingly, and it just refuses to kick it lol.

pupppet 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Another vote for the Sonicare.

nemomarx 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Why haven't phones just moved to have two USB ports?

A slight convenience when you want to charge it in that you don't have to turn it around, you can have USB headphones and also charge, you could use more accessories...

jitl 3 hours ago | parent | next [-]

I've needed 2 USB-C ports on one-port devices (phone, Steam Deck) a few times so I got this tiny 2-port hub with micro SD card reader (also has option for 3.5mm audio port instead of card reader): https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0DKV7JSHC?th=1 "Satechi USB C Mobile Hub, 4-in-1 USB C Multiport Adapter, 4K HDMI, 100W Pass-Through Charging, 10Gbps Data"

chaosharmonic 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

See, I agree with this too. You wouldn't have to worry nearly as much about the random little things that are specific to just one device or another (IR blasters, the DAC on old LG phones, etc) if you could just plug in a second USB peripheral.

But what I'm more getting at is the other way around: that wireless headphones will already have USB-C for charging anyway. And that, particularly for larger ones (that have that port directly on the device, and not in a separate charging cradle), it really seems like a waste that more of them don't leverage that -- so that, again, you could use the headphones while you charge them.

alterom 4 hours ago | parent [-]

>so that, again, you could use the headphones while you charge them.

Yes! And you could charge them off your phone!

If I could dream: wouldn't it be nice if you had headphones with charging cables attached to them so that you never had to worry about losing them.

And phones could have a convenient extra port for plugging such headphones into.

Ah, one could only dream.

rootusrootus 3 hours ago | parent [-]

There are still wired options, though, right? I don't really miss them, the nostalgia is not strong enough to forget how often the damn cable would catch on something and try to rip the headphones off my head. Or the cord noise. I get that people do not like having to eventually replace a battery, but high quality wireless headphones are a nice upgrade IMO.

penultimatename 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Because the use case and demand versus the cost of engineering and manufacturing isn’t there. The market for USB headphones is minuscule compared to Bluetooth headphones.

alterom 4 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

My XReal Beam Pro¹ has two USB-C ports: one for charging, one for Thunderbolt video output (both support data transfer IIRC).

My other phones (Samsung Galaxy A23 etc) have a USB-C and a 3.5mm headphone jack as Lord intended, so I don't have the idiotic problem of choosing between charging or using headphones / aux cable / etc.

There's no reason to not have two USB-C ports and a 3.5mmm headphone jack too in a device that already costs hundreds of dollars and is, on average, brick-sized, other than fuck you, that's why (aka being "brave").

I.e., same reason that some phones (not mine) don't have a microSD card slot. Particularly those shipped with atrociously little internal memory at a time when a 1TB memory card costs a few dozen dollars.

Anyways, unless the EU rolls out new legislation (like the one that forced Apple to include USB-C on their phones), looks like it's not going to change any time soon.

Apple has enough money to bravely get away with whatever anti-consumer BS they want, paving the way for others to copy them for fashion and profit.

Sure there are exceptions (which is what I buy). But they're not the norm, as evidenced by comments here. Voting with one's wallet buys very little in terms of impact.

People still decry the loss of the 3.5mm TRRS headphone jack, which didn't really go away and never had to.

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¹ It's an "AR processor", i.e. an Android phone without the phone plus 3D camera and special sauce

chaosharmonic 3 hours ago | parent [-]

> My XReal Beam Pro¹ has two USB-C ports: one for charging, one for Thunderbolt video output (both support data transfer IIRC).

I know what you're saying, but to be a little pedantic about it it's actually only USB 3.

(I wish there were mobile devices supporting USB4; it would bring them significantly closer to feature parity with larger devices.)

jonhohle 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

For the vast majority of things I need to power or charge, dumb USB charging is fine, and I have a 10-port Anker “IQ” charger that works great for most of those things. Why doesn’t the equivalent USB-C charger exist? I don’t need 65W on each port. I just needs lots of ports for gadgets that can trickle charge for hours at night (4 kids, lots of devices). I mostly want to standardize on USB-C host cables, but no one makes a cheap device for doing that more than a decade after USB-C became a thing.

tempest_ 4 hours ago | parent | next [-]

The reason is because while you want to use the low end the general public does not understand that USB-C is the connector only and that various levels of power and data depend on the cable and the device at both ends.

If you sell a 10 port USB-C charged someone is going to plug 10 MacBooks into it and complain it doesnt work.

The best I have seen for what you want is

https://ca.ugreen.com/products/ugreen-500w-desktop-charger

but is not cheap at all or something like

https://www.amazon.ca/Powered-Aluminum-Adapter-Computer-Prin...

rootusrootus 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I've seen 1000W (or so they claim) 10 port USB-C chargers on Amazon. Not Anker, just a no name Chinese brand I am not going to trust. But they do seem to exist. Like the sibling comment says, I assume it's because people expect USB-C charging capabilities to be a lot higher.

benoau 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

> Why doesn’t the equivalent USB-C charger exist?

Isn't this just a USB 3.x hub?

jonhohle 4 hours ago | parent [-]

You know of a 10-port USB-C hub that can negotiate power (old USB style, not PD) without a host device?

TulliusCicero 4 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

I'm guessing it's because people expect USB-C ports to at least handle 18w.

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