| ▲ | Agnes Callard’s theory of the uni-context(derekthompson.org) | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| 56 points by FinnLobsien 2 hours ago | 41 comments | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| ▲ | resters 35 minutes ago | parent | next [-] | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
There are some of us (late generation-X / early millennial) who saw this coming and still maintain a variety of separate identities across many domains. I don't know why someone would want to have the same identity in the workplace as on internet forums, for example. Social media appears to have given many people the idea that they ought to cultivate their public identity from an early age as preparation for internet fame / personal branding. | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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| ▲ | sorokod an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-] | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
"How do informational norms change when we’re all living in the same universal room?" I different interesting question: why would we want to inhabit this universal room in the first place? The post mentions the idea of being "bigger than yourself" but to me the context collapse achieves the opposite - a sort of carboard caricature of oneself. | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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| ▲ | jubilanti an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-] | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
They cite "context collapse" and say this "uni-context" is deeper, but I still don't see how this "uni-context" is all that different than "context collapse", extensively studied since the 2000s. And which Goffman in the 1960s was writing about in the context of big mixed social gatherings like weddings, that bring together people who know you in quite different contexts. | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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| ▲ | tedggh 24 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-] | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
I’m in month 5 of not having access to any social network, and although the first weeks I felt tempted to reinstall X and Reddit, I’m at a point where I don’t think I’m ever coming back. There are still great spaces like HN where you can consume content and participate in debates. I do miss some of the fun stuff, but it wasn’t worth being exposed to all the other crap for a few laughs a day. | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| ▲ | warshinder 17 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-] | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
I think much of this might apply to Callard: her high public visibility in social media, the attention grabbing colorful attire, her as I recall public advocacy and openness about her own polyamorous lifestyle. I don’t think that’s typical. Certainly it’s not for me. I’d rather be Zelig. But I think most people code shift, and present different personas in private life compared to work. Probably much less so for the average substack author, so it surprises me little the idea might resonate with Derek Thompson, the blog’s author. | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| ▲ | arjie 23 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-] | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Like most of these things, one can bemoan it and say “oh it’s terrible that this is how it is” but I think it’s pretty easy to self-test this to see its adaptive for a reason. Brendan Eich was fired from Mozilla as CTO because of a small donation in favour of Prop 8. Fine? I think most people here would say yes. In fact people did say that. I think many people would say they don’t want to have a plumber who opposes (say) trans rights. Or read an author who is anti-gay. Pick some view heretical to your world-view and see if you can stand to encounter people who hold it. If you require all purity you probably prefer the uni-context. | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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| ▲ | kruffalon an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-] | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
I'm having immense problems digesting this interview to understand the concept of the uni-context. It does sound very interesting and right up my alley. I also don't seem to be able to use internet search anymore (probably a user error) so if anyone has a link to a document, soundfile or video of Agnes Callard explaining the concept without the interuptions from a interviewer that is more interested in contributing than to let her explain the concept I would very much appreciate it. | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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| ▲ | alexwebb2 an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-] | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
This actually fits quite nicely with the idea that the graph network of humanity has meaningful emergent properties/challenges/phenomena at various densities or subnetwork connectedness thresholds. It's the same fundamental network problem: the infrastructure that allows unprecedented levels of commerce and ideas and travel will also allow disinformation, plagues, and homogeneity. The double-edged sword of graph density. | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| ▲ | inigyou an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-] | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Nightclubs that put stickers on your phone camera are attempting (largely succeeding) to keep the uni-context out. | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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| ▲ | est an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-] | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
> If you post something to social media, it will be simultaneously visible to your boss, your parents, your ex, and total strangers Isn't that what G Wave/ G+ trying to solve? I think a better option would be: don't tie your IRL identity for online communications. | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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| ▲ | jdthedisciple an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-] | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
The theory felt a bit oversold in the introduction, imho. | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| ▲ | DaveZale an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-] | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
I've been watching both the corporate media, and social media, rot completely over the past 30 years. A large part of that was that early adopters tended to be more educated, played nicely, and were not involved in attention-seeking, sychophancy, and often, escapism. Another factor is the bright colors, moving videos and other eye candy, and psychological hacks like the emojis for "liking" and gaining "followers" which produce addictive feedback loops. Of course, this interview touches on valid points, but is not the whole picture. "Bad news travels fast" and gets more clicks. That helps explain the rot of the news media. Maybe I am oversimplifying too, however. Factors like sophisticated persuasion campaigns by various organizations, for example, cannot be discarded. Likewise with the advertisers. | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| ▲ | thomastjeffery 21 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-] | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
It's a shame the title doesn't just include the word: "uni-context". It's a really useful and interesting perspective. The other relevant word is "objectivity". There so many systems in our society whose context we surround ourselves with, it starts to feel like every subject is objective. The reality is that every subject is subjective. I think one of the big drivers for this dynamic is that our social systems are facilitated with software, and we always make software as a uni-context. An application is a fixed context. If we can figure out how to introduce subjectivity into software, that would be extremely useful for both computing and society. | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| ▲ | pphysch an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-] | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
This is an interesting perspective on the concept of "atomization of the individual", which the interview interestingly does not refer to. Both atomization and the "uni-context" arise from the destruction of an individual's local contexts, like family and community, leaving them an individual in a global, maximally-large pool of individuals, the so-called uni-context. Atomization has clear motivations: increasing the individual consumer base (no, you shouldn't share your car or lawnmower with your block, you need your own), suppressing democracy, and generally making a population more predictable and easy to manage. | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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| ▲ | uwagar an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-] | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
basically, u gotta unplug and go offline and live by moving about in the world and interacting with everything with your own senses. | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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| ▲ | listenallyall an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-] | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
"differential" should be "deferential" | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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| ▲ | ggambetta an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-] | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
So it's not a one-word theory, it's a theory with a one-word name... shocking. What a clickbait title! | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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| ▲ | thomashobohm an hour ago | parent | prev [-] | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
If Agnes Callard tried to read Heidegger, her head would explode. | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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