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m1llie_ 11 hours ago

I feel a very similar sentiment in Australia. Everything is poorly made and full of anti-features. It breaks prematurely, and software updates make it worse by disabling features, adding things I don't want, or holding functionality I already paid for to ransom as a subscription.

Warranties aren't worth the paper they're printed on. Every warranty claim I've made in the past 5 years (a fair few) has been a Kafka-esque nightmare of bouncing back and forth between reps who don't understand the issue, callbacks at inopportune times because of failure to understand timezones, and waiting for things to ship back and forth between repair centres across the country or overseas. Customer support is carefully crafted to be set up to fail, while still maintaining the plausible deniability of Hanlon's Razor. You may eventually get your widget repaired or replaced, but it'll cost you as much in time, effort, and frustration as it would have to just buy a new one. This is of course deliberate, but you'll never prove it. Companies exploit people's politeness and aversion to conflict by telling polite customers that there's nothing that can be done. You get nothing unless you dig your heels in and get combative with the rep who is just doing their job. And the consumer protection agencies are toothless tigers.

So now I don't buy new products unless there's no other option. Previously, buying new meant a product you could trust, and an assurance that they'd take care of you if something went wrong. Since that contract is broken, I see no point buying new. Especially not when last year's model often has more features, fewer anti-features, and better repairability than the current one. I'm not the only one responding like this: The snake cannot eat its own tail forever, and these companies will eventually discover that if they keep making their products shittier and shittier then people will just stop buying them. Especially once new competitors who need to build a reputation start to eat the established brands' lunches.

sbfriends 11 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Australia's consumer guarantees cannot be replaced or excluded by warranties and offer huge protections for consumers who know how to exercise their rights. Companies try to apply friction to the process and I suspect that frustrates a lot of people to the point of giving up.

femto 11 hours ago | parent | next [-]

I'd encourage Australians not to muck around in this regard. Fair Trading gives explicit instructions:

1) Contact the organisation

2) Suggest a resolution

3) give them a reasonable time to respond (ie. not forever)

4) Be polite

5) Lodge a complaint with Fair Trading

The more people that do this, the less sellers will try to do people over.

https://www.nsw.gov.au/legal-and-justice/consumer-rights-and...

bigfatkitten 9 hours ago | parent [-]

(5) is often a waste of time, but filing an application in NCAT (or your state/territory’s equivalent) will get their attention.

m1llie_ 10 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

I used to think Australia's consumer protection legislation and enforcement agencies were the envy of the world, until I tried to actually exercise some of those rights. Companies will do everything they can to be as unhelpful and frustrating as possible while still following the letter of the law. It feels like something out of the Simple Sabotage Field Manual.

aucisson_masque 9 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I don't mind paying a little more in exchange for good customer support. My internet provider has gone from having support in Arabic countries, that speak French good enough but don't really care about you, to support in France and it makes all the difference in the world.

I was astonished when I asked a question and the guy did actual research, called back and told me things that a simple Google search on my end wouldn't have find.

Usually it's very different, they either don't know/don't care or say things that are obviously false.

I believe it's also why Amazon took so much in popularity. If I got an issue with Amazon product, I know it well be dealt with swiftly, as long as it's sent by Amazon and not by a third party.

russelg 10 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

The key in Australia is to buy from a physical retailer. They often cannot give you the runaround as under consumer law, they're responsible for the resolution.

femto 10 hours ago | parent [-]

Online retailers are also responsible under the law, as the laws apply to all retailers.

In practical terms, if it's an online business with no Australian presence it makes it hard to apply the law. Overseas online companies with an Australian presence, such as Amazon, have been successfully prosecuted [1,2,3]. The ACCC is still working through responsibility for third-party sellers, but it seems to be the case that if it is fulfilled by Amazon then it is responsible.

[1] https://www.accc.gov.au/media-release/amazon-in-court-for-in...

[2] https://www.abc.net.au/news/2026-05-29/accc-sues-amazon-butt...

[3] https://www.accc.gov.au/media-release/accc-issues-takedown-r...

[4] https://www.choice.com.au/shopping/consumer-rights-and-advic...

russelg 9 hours ago | parent [-]

Yep, but it's a lot easier for an online retailer to avoid you and give you more hassle (oh you have to post it back to us etc).