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wonderwonder 3 hours ago

In your opinion is Hustler magazine a banned book becuase its not allowed in schools?

InsideOutSanta 2 hours ago | parent | next [-]

If you were to make a list of banned books, yes, it would be fine to include Hustler magazine, as it was (and remains) banned in many places (and because of its historical significance in the fight against censorship).

wonderwonder 2 hours ago | parent [-]

I can pick one up at the corner store or order it online but its not allowed to sit in the libraries of US elementary schools so would you consider it to still be banned in the US?

InsideOutSanta 12 minutes ago | parent [-]

No, I would not consider it to be "banned in the US".

john_strinlai 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

if i said "hustler is banned from my school", and someone came along and said "it's not banned, it's just not allowed", i would laugh.

the word "banned", specifically and only in the context of books, is one of the fucking strangest quirks of HN.

topgrain2 2 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Pretend confusion, especially over the very terms of the discussion, is a really common shitposting tactic all over the Internet. Though yeah it’s maybe more common here. Possibly because it falls under the category of trolling that doesn’t draw moderator ire (here, I mean, not in general)

wonderwonder 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

its not strange. Books represent knowledge and ideas. Ways of thinking. An attempt to ban a book is an attempt to restrict freedom of thought and the exchange of ideas. It has a historical context and a ban is generally considered on a societal level, not building specific. Some books are not allowed in school buildings, they are not banned.

Banning books for example has a very different context than banning cocaine. Cocaine use in the United States is banned, Hustler magazine is not. I can swing by the store tomorrow and pick one up legally, I can't get cocaine legally.

Restricting Hustler from a school full of kids is not banning it. Thus the quirk.

If I don't allow Green Eggs and Ham in my house does it belong in a museam of banned books?

john_strinlai 2 hours ago | parent [-]

>a ban is generally considered on a societal level

no, its not.

>Restricting Hustler from a school full of kids is not banning it.

only if you are making up your own definition of "ban".

by any dictionary definition, it is completely appropriate to say hustler is banned from the school.

wonderwonder 2 hours ago | parent [-]

If I don't allow Green Eggs and Ham in my house does it belong in a museam of banned books?

john_strinlai 2 hours ago | parent [-]

its completely normal and acceptable english to say that you've banned green eggs and ham from your house. that's my point.

tremon 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

I'm more likely to laugh at the implication that Hustler somehow qualifies as a book.