| ▲ | hsbauauvhabzb 6 hours ago |
| I would prefer knobs and buttons over a screen flow in either direction, but no modern car caters to this anymore. |
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| ▲ | benjymo 2 hours ago | parent | next [-] |
| VW is bringing back physical buttons in their newer models, e.g. ID.3 Neo and Polo. Skoda never did away with them. It's also part of the safety rating of Euro NCAP, and AFAIK China mandated physical buttons for important functions as well. |
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| ▲ | bestham an hour ago | parent [-] | | The wheel in an Enyaq before the facelift is the same haptic one-button shitshow. They have some buttons that act like shortcuts below the infotainment. But it the screen is still essentialistisk for managing crucial functions. |
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| ▲ | rbanffy 16 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| I use CarPlay all the time and I almost never use the touchscreen - as you shouldn't while driving. The car has buttons and knobs, on the dash and on the wheel, to call up all sorts of options in the UI. The only time I need to touch the screen is if I want a full screen map (instead of the three-panel usual view). |
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| ▲ | hnlmorg 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Lots of modern cars cater for this. It’s actually a marketing point with manufacturers like the VW group publicising how they’re bringing back tactile interfaces. And some ranges of cars never took that away (for example Jaguar). |
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| ▲ | happymellon 2 hours ago | parent [-] | | How can they be "bringing it back" if they already offer it? So they can't be currently catering for it. Also, the Jaguar F Pace was a big screen with the only knob being the vents, so they did take the majority away. | | |
| ▲ | benjymo 2 hours ago | parent [-] | | They did away with a lot of physical buttons in the past. Now they are in the process of bringing them back. There are some models still sold with the old design while all new models have physical again. Also some of their brands had physical buttons all along. I think Skoda never removed them in the Elroq or Enyak. |
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| ▲ | doug_durham 6 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| My Hyundai Ioniq 5 has Car Play and knobs and buttons. It's not either or. |
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| ▲ | bux93 3 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | That's in fact one of the pros of carplay/android auto as opposed to just putting your phone in one of those windscreen attached holders; you get to use the volume buttons on the steering wheel. Annoyingly my car doesn't have play/pause buttons on there, but if it had, they would work. | | |
| ▲ | stavros 2 hours ago | parent [-] | | Even on the holder, you'd use Bluetooth, and those buttons work. With Android Auto/CarPlay you can also use a joystick, if your car has one. |
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| ▲ | christoph 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | Our BMW i3 also has CarPlay and it’s all knobs and buttons for interaction! |
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| ▲ | dlcarrier 30 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Even physical controls can be a downgrade if poorly implemented. R.I.P. Anton Yelchin, who brought us joy with his portrayal of Chekov in the Star Trek films, before losing his life at only 27, from a switch poorly masquerading as a brake lever. |
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| ▲ | rbanffy 14 minutes ago | parent [-] | | In my mind it's always because he played Kyle Reese once and the car was just confused about it. |
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| ▲ | jackvalentine 6 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| I bought a BYD that is as close to that as I could. https://esv6hz7yeij.exactdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/10/b... |
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| ▲ | dhosek 6 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | From everything I’ve read about BYD, I’m thinking it’s almost certainly going to be the car I buy after my move to Mexico. | |
| ▲ | stavros 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | But still no pause button, only mute! Just maddening, do they think I only listen to radio? | | |
| ▲ | fuzzmz 2 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | In my Hyundai pressing the mute button while on Bluetooth/Android Auto pauses playback and mutes. Pressing again resumes playback and volume to previous level. | | | |
| ▲ | cromka 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | Presumably pressing Play will pause when already playing? Like it's been a case for like 40 years or so? | | |
| ▲ | stavros 2 hours ago | parent [-] | | Well, either I'm very dumb and didn't think to press play on the car I own to solve the problem I've had for years, or you're missing the fact that there is no play button on BYD cars. I wonder which it is. | | |
| ▲ | cromka an hour ago | parent [-] | | There's clearly a play button on that photo referenced in this thread. Whether your car has that is irrelevant, we're not discussing YOURS. | | |
| ▲ | stavros an hour ago | parent [-] | | Ah yes, the play button, and also clearly the reverse play button on the opposite side, which presumably makes the audio play in reverse. I have the same car, those are the previous/next buttons. |
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| ▲ | empiricus 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | Oh yes the mute button, very useful when trying to pause a podcast :( |
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| ▲ | bluescrn 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| All the effort put in to stopping drivers distracting themselves with phones while driving, then we get big distracting touchscreens with apps front+centre in many new cars, and apparently that's OK. |
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| ▲ | brookst an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Jeep may not be modern, but all of the windows, climate, etc, are physical buttons. |
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| ▲ | stronglikedan 6 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Some still have knobs. My mom's caddy has knobs in front of the armrest that control everything, so the touchscreen is optional but works just as well for those that want it. |
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| ▲ | aetch 6 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Mazda has knobs and buttons that can even control carplay |
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| ▲ | dhosek 5 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | Same with Toyota (fun fact—I discovered earlier this year, over three years that I bought my Prius, that there were whole displays in the dashboard I didn’t know existed while trying to adjust the volume from the steering wheel while I was backing out of my garage, but because the wheel was rotated 180°, I hit the wrong button. Turns out the navigation between different info displays is 2-dimensional and the ↑/↓ gives additional views into some of the information that I had no idea existed, as well as revealing some functionality I didn’t know was there for the HVAC). | |
| ▲ | gf000 4 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | I believe even they dropped it in the latest cars, unfortunately | | |
| ▲ | izacus 3 hours ago | parent [-] | | Yeah, the latest CX-5 and 6e went all in Tesla screen derangement and folks don't love it. |
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| ▲ | izacus 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-] |
| My Mazda controls Auto/CarPlay with a physical controller so it's not either/or. |
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| ▲ | yuye 3 hours ago | parent [-] | | Last time I got a rental car, it was a Mazda 3. I really enjoy how the dial works. |
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