| ▲ | OutOfHere 6 hours ago |
| There is no basis to suggest that any product uses this property of water. As for homeopathy, it isn't one thing. The effects, if any, can vary greatly by the substance and the concentration. Some low-dilution products work and many high-dilution products don't. There is such a thing as excessive dilution. Anyone who is painting a simpler picture of it is almost certainly wrong. |
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| ▲ | DrBazza 3 hours ago | parent | next [-] |
| If I add water to a glass of whiskey and dilute it, why don't I get twice as drunk? |
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| ▲ | qsera 3 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | But you can drink a lot more that way and get way more drunk! | | |
| ▲ | OutOfHere 44 minutes ago | parent [-] | | Assuming the original dilution is adequate, further dilution will slow the consumption, making one less drunk. | | |
| ▲ | qsera 34 minutes ago | parent [-] | | Try drinking a pint dry, and try drinking it diluted with water. And let me know what was easy... |
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| ▲ | OutOfHere an hour ago | parent | prev [-] | | Because the amount of total intoxicant is the same. Let: A = amount of ethanol V = initial whiskey volume W = added water Initial concentration: c₁ = A / V After dilution: c₂ = A / (V + W) If you drink the entire diluted glass: ethanol consumed = c₂(V + W) = A Intoxication ∝ ethanol consumed Therefore: drunkenness ∝ A not ∝ (V + W) Adding water changes concentration, not the total ethanol: A = constant ⇒ drunkenness = constant (ignoring effects of drinking rate). |
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| ▲ | jiggawatts 4 hours ago | parent | prev [-] |
| Homeopathy is very literally the singular concept that more diluted medicine works better. Saying that “less diluted works better” is saying the diametric opposite of what Homeopathic “theory” does! |
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| ▲ | OutOfHere 4 hours ago | parent [-] | | You're speaking of classical homeopathy, not practical observation. In practice there are many homeopathic products with varying dilutions, many of which have a meaningful amount of the substance, and therefore the distinct possibility of a biological effect. | | |
| ▲ | BobbyTables2 2 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | Agree! Someone once told me that homeopathic doctors often put significant amounts of allopathic medicine in their “homeopathic” concoctions. Does wonders for effectiveness! Perpetuating the classical myth in this manner is also great for business! Of course, there are also a number of cases where western “supplements” were caught containing actual prescription medicine, not just natural precursors or such. Same idea… | | |
| ▲ | OutOfHere an hour ago | parent [-] | | That might be true but it's absolutely not what I was getting at. Certainly I have never had or even seen a supplement containing any prescription medicine. My comment was strictly in the context of ingredients and isolated labeled products that are used only in the homeopathic space. |
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| ▲ | jiggawatts 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | Sure, but homeopaths would consider the less diluted ones to be the weaker “medicine”! | | |
| ▲ | OutOfHere an hour ago | parent | next [-] | | Perhaps some very traditional ones would. Most people are just concerned with addressing their symptoms. Rightly or wrongly, homeopathic products are considered medicines, not supplements, and people in general are very mindful of spending money on medicines that don't work. | | |
| ▲ | kyralis 42 minutes ago | parent [-] | | > Rightly or wrongly, homeopathic products are considered medicines, not supplements, and people in general are very mindful of spending money on medicines that don't work. [Citation needed]. People spend enormous amounts of money on junk "cures" and have done for centuries. Homeopathy is just one of the many current such scams. | | |
| ▲ | qsera a few seconds ago | parent [-] | | You are forgetting the fact that many allopathic medicines are also junk cures which are seldom not better than a placebo (pushed through by flawed methodologies and corruption). And when they are found, they gets banned in US, but continued to be used in third world, where the now "junk" cures are sold as legit science! |
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