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xantronix 5 hours ago

You seem like a person who works at a place that doesn't have an AI mandate. That sounds nice. I miss when we had nice things in the world like that. I will never take that for granted again.

plaguuuuuu 4 hours ago | parent | next [-]

AI mandate is one of the best things that's happened to me. It's the easiest metric to game in the world.

At one point my boss asked why my AI usage was lower than other team members. I instantly knew what to do. Every session is now run at ultracode effort. My automated PR review bot averages like $80 in usage per PR review.

tudelo 3 hours ago | parent | next [-]

It is extremely easy to burn tokens if that is required. Explore this codebase. Team x wants y feature, research and generate a full plan. What does feature x in codebase y actually mean? Analyze code coverage in x. Map out code flow and find concurrency bugs in y and on and on...

Oh and my favorite: Use 5 independent subagents to review code change and summarize the findings, and for any finding determine if they are real concerns

cevn 3 hours ago | parent | next [-]

The other day claude spun up 100 agents and took an hour to type 30k token document to tell me something was impossible to do. I googled it, found a pr on the 3rd link that showed it was possible. "You're absolutely right!!"

lostglass 3 hours ago | parent [-]

"You can't use reflection if the classes aren't in the class loader" "I see why you would think that however this should work, let's test it."

-Claude, burning my company's money.

mikae1 30 minutes ago | parent [-]

> Claude, burning my company's money.

And the planet... While I experience some schadenfreude when reading these comments from programmers, I also can not help to wonder when this insanity will this end.

ffsm8 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

There is value in doing all that too, though. Admittedly with strong diminishing returns, but it's there.

Eg by doing that I was able to develop non-essential features which increased our quality of life for devs last month without going through our PO who'd need to price it - because that does let's you create changes in an incredibly hands off manner with miniscule amount of time investment if you already know what you want to achieve, and how the end result should be...

Admittedly, that's a pretty narrow usecase which is rarely the case- but if it is...

parasti an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Just ask it to "use a workflow" and it'll spin un dozens of agents burning your token allowance in parallel.

flowerthoughts 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

And the more uselessly amusing thing is that the manager who requests higher tokens usage probably also doesn't care whether it's producing slop or not. Metric goes up; managers happy until CFO is reported income hasn't gone up as quickly as costs, and that makes the CEO optimistically concerned. Never expect underlying thought from a messenger.

It's interesting that LLM barely had any vetting period or experimentation phase. Suddenly everyone was supposed to test it in production, it seems.

Forgeties79 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Afterwards, give me 5 separate documents with 10 plans each for how to implement this. Triple check your work, make no mistakes. Then give me 3 distinct executive summaries emphasizing different areas.

EmanuelB 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

https://github.com/dtnewman/burn-baby-burn

Get ready for that promotion!

HiPhish 6 minutes ago | parent [-]

I love how the images are an AI-generated fever dream. Normally I hate those things, but in this case it's a perfect match for the AI clown world.

tgv 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

That's corporate eco-terrorism. How did we sink so low?

pjc50 32 minutes ago | parent | next [-]

Stock prices have always been more important than a habitable environment.

The really stupid thing is that shareholders are also rewarding useless burns of their money. It's capitalist Stakhanovism.

Forgeties79 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

If your manager is asking you why you aren’t hammering 500 nails a day with your company hammer under threat of replacement, you’re going stop worrying about the surfaces your driving nails in to and simply start swinging.

tgv 28 minutes ago | parent [-]

1. It is not comparable. Idk the environmental toll of 500 nails, but tokenmaxxing definitely has one. Especially when it doesn't have any provable and substantial benefit.

2. Your responsibility doesn't end because your manager says so.

3. It's not just about the employee who actually burns the tokens, but also about the rest of it: the idiocy up to the top, and the irresponsibility of the companies offering the service.

oblio 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

It's even worse/better. It's corporate financial malpractice. At some point they will wake up after the AI psychosis dies down. That might take 1-2 more years. After that most companies will realize that AI is a tool, as OP said, and adjust budgets accordingly.

delusional 3 hours ago | parent [-]

Importantly, "adjusting budgets" here is for most companies, you know the ones you have to fight to even get an IDE license, a euphemism for zeroing the budget.

ihsw 3 hours ago | parent [-]

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rwmj 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

It's also the easiest way to determine if your management has AI psychosis or not, and make corresponding decisions about whether to stay with the company.

Forgeties79 2 hours ago | parent [-]

No one is leaving their job because their manager is too obsessed with AI. Especially not in this economy/job market.

KronisLV 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

I'd unironically like my workplace to cover AI spend for me.

There's so, so much mechanically simple but time consuming refactoring that should be done but nobody ever does that because there's never enough free time. Or even various utility scripts and at least finding out of date docs (or writing very basic ones where none exist, though it'd be hard to get them not to feel like slop writing). Or figuring out what additional custom linter rules would be useful, how to improve the CI pipelines and so on.

If I had the Anthropic Max 20x subscription, I could make a large part of the technical backlog disappear (relatively safely).

swiftcoder 15 minutes ago | parent [-]

> If I had the Anthropic Max 20x subscription

Most of the tasks you have listed you could do with Haiku, GPT mini, or DeepSeek Flash.

An Anthropic Max 20x subscription is considerable overkill for this sort of task.

lordkrandel 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Get out of thay world ASAP. There are still companies actually doing work instead of burning investors money

groundzeros2015 5 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Why would you assume that?

xantronix 5 hours ago | parent [-]

The wisdom to understand that velocity is not equal to value; and the optimism that this will all end at some point.

Retric 5 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Companies ultimately don’t have a choice here.

They can do what works, or they can fail. Large enough companies with enough inertia can do really dumb things for a while, but even giants fall.

wiether 3 hours ago | parent | next [-]

I'm confused by your answer because I can't tell which way you're going.

Are you saying companies have to mandate AI everywhere?

Or are you saying the exact opposite, as your second sentence suggests?

I haven't heard of AI mandates in small companies, only in big ones.

delusional 3 hours ago | parent [-]

He's just making a general "efficient markets" argument. He's arguing that whatever happens in a couple of years will be the right thing, no matter what is happening now.

That is essentially not an argument in any direction.

geon 31 minutes ago | parent [-]

Inshallah

lordkrandel 11 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-]

If it works. Where is this 100x software output? I just see more AI tools to check it does not derail, but where is the actual software revolution, where all developers are fired? I'm still closing AI PR slop here

tonyhart7 4 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

or they just need really capable AI that are better than 99% human

lazide 5 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

That just means he’s not a middle manager or exec, not that he isn’t cashing the check from someone who is clearly a short sighted idiot.

xantronix 4 hours ago | parent [-]

It wasn't meant to be a literal statement, more just a reflection that the situation is so bleak that I cannot imagine a better future; anybody expressing even a little bit of it seems to me like a somebody who has not been crushed into compliance through force.

Quoting the host of the recurring Quiz Broadcast sketch from That Mitchell and Webb Look: "Books mention 'hope'. What was 'hope'?"