Remix.run Logo
freedomben 13 hours ago

The color options are a much bigger deal than I think many people realize. It's been too many years since I saw the studies so I have no hope of being able to cite it, but in a marketing class in college I remember reading about how much people value picking a color they really like, that they feel matches their personality. It increases satisfaction, significantly reduces the cognitive dissonance (aka "buyers remorse") that usually accompanies a major purchase, and increases identity sharing (where the vehicle feels like part of your identity, which is good for brand loyalty and total ownership satisfaction). I've been surprised how limited the color palette usually is for vehicles given all that. It will be interesting to see how Slate does!

efsavage 13 hours ago | parent | next [-]

AFAIK there's actually only one color and you can wrap it. The wrap kits are supposed to be DIY friendly so you can change it yourself when you want a new color.

bitexploder 13 hours ago | parent | next [-]

The body panels are some sort of composite polycarbonate plastic. They offered a number of colors in the UI for the pre-order system. It basically allows you to configure options that are available and see what it looks like. The wraps are (offered) DIY and they claim it will take two people 14-16 hours. They offer a number of colors that cost $500 right now.

Pretty interesting as far as cars go. I think all of the customization options are really smart, but we will see if that is enough for the average consumer. The number of relatively inexpensive options and ability to customize various details rivals some high end car configuration systems, Porsche is famous for letting you customize every detail.

The way Slate has designed their vehicles, they are making it very easy to change just about anything with the vehicle. I can see this being very popular with young people who cannot afford a lot of car, but still want a highly customized and personalized vehicle that they identify with. We will see if all of the other factors work out in Slate's favor.

JojoFatsani 8 hours ago | parent | next [-]

It does not take 36 man-hours to wrap a vehicle. I think that 16 hours is the "SLA"/drop-off-to-pick-up time.

freedomben 12 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

> The wraps are DIY and they claim it will take two people 14-16 hours.

Oh man, that is ... a lot labor. I can't imagine many people are going to want to do it

bitexploder 12 hours ago | parent | next [-]

They designed the vehicle to be "easy" to wrap. Meaning you don't have to remove trim or anything like that. It is still non-trivial and you would want to do it inside of a garage IMO.

baby_souffle 12 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Presumably that's assuming no prior experience. That seems pretty reasonable to me. I would be rather annoyed if I brought it to a professional wrapping shop and they quoted me 15 hours of labor though

dismalaf 12 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

In the FAQ it says you can also order it pre-wrapped.

vablings 11 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Why not? This is an easy version of bribe your friends with a case of beer while you work on your POS project car.

I feel like this truck really appeals to the more moderate project car folks who want something both reliable and personal to them

esseph 6 hours ago | parent [-]

> I feel like this truck really appeals to the more moderate project car folks

It also appeals to anyone that wants a new vehicle but has been priced out their entire lives - especially for an EV.

bitexploder 6 hours ago | parent [-]

This vehicle is likely to be highly customizable for almost any interior or cosmetic element. People love customizing vehicles. The number of people who get super into the most inane customization details in the Porsche world cracks me up. "Oh yeah, I got mine PTS (Paint to Sample) color Pacific Northwest Green Pine in Late Fall, but with a hint of sunshine.... and check this out I got custom deviated stitching in this place you literally cannot see once the door closes, no one else really has that!" Same thing here. This level of customization gives people a connection to the vehicle at a very affordable price. It is an EV. It is practical. It can be upgraded after purchase. I dunno, it has a lot going for it.

12 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]
[deleted]
laweijfmvo 12 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

and it will look terrible if you don’t do it properly

simonsarris 11 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

That sounds a bit like one of Saturn's (1985-2010) original ideas from the 80s. The plastic paneling was easy to take off so that people could DIY change the colors or add their own panels (and Saturn engineers could quickly revise styles). I am not sure very many people ever did, however. Or even if the cars were all that customizable in the end.

davkan 9 hours ago | parent [-]

Notably truck people love customizing their trucks. Less so for economy sedan people.

xattt 13 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

This is great if you have a garage to do it in. This is terrible if you’re an apartment dweller and have no workshop space!

vablings 12 hours ago | parent [-]

Parking garage, a friend's house etc.. You make it work.

SoftTalker 12 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Or take it to a vinyl shop and pay to have it done properly in an afternoon.

therealdrag0 11 hours ago | parent [-]

Thousands of dollars tho right?

SoftTalker 10 hours ago | parent [-]

I don't know but probably. A good wrap job isn't actually much cheaper than a decent paint job, the undersurface still has to be prepped as any dents or chips will show through (less of a concern with a new car though). Applying vinyl without any wrinkles and cutting it perfectly is a skill. Guys need to pay the rent on the shop, pay for tools, and make a living.

therealdrag0 8 hours ago | parent [-]

Ya not discounting the labor. But as a consumer I really dislike bland and universal car colors, but I can’t justify spending thousands for a custom color.

netsharc 12 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Sounds like the vinyls will feel like "Hooray my own kinda car!" but will end up in the storage room with "I'll stick these on later" note in the buyers' heads.

baby_souffle 12 hours ago | parent [-]

You can order a wrapped professionally from the factory. Depending upon which segment of the body panels it's as cheap as a few hundred bucks all the way up to something like 800 bucks for a full wrap.

I don't think I've ever gone shopping for a car and had the dealer present me with the exact same trim options but color selection was only going to change the MSRP by $800 at most...

Marsymars an hour ago | parent | next [-]

> I don't think I've ever gone shopping for a car and had the dealer present me with the exact same trim options but color selection was only going to change the MSRP by $800 at most...

Am I misunderstanding here? I bought a new vehicle last year, and for a given trim there were a half-dozen colour options available at no extra cost, with the upscale options either a $600 or $800 upcharge.

baby_souffle 10 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Too late to edit parent but I might be wrong about wrap from the factory. (up to) $800 just for the materials is still reasonable but even with experience doing wraps, I would probably still bring it to a shop. DIY wrap is a bit like baking cookies; you don't need much in terms of skill or tools to do it but you absolutely can tell the difference between cookies made in your average kitchen using the recipe on the back of the box versus cookies made by people that earn a living making cookies.

pjc50 12 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I think this is starting to change, fortunately, with things like the yellow Renault 5s.

Mind you, when ordering a lease car for the first time recently, I did notice that I was paying a premium for non-bland colours. I suspect the weird financial structure of new cars has - they're often not bought to hold, but leased - has a lot to do with the blandness.

kevin_thibedeau 7 hours ago | parent [-]

There's a large segment of population that will only buy white/black/gray. The paint lines are geared toward those that sell well and special colors are relegated to shorter runs with more expense for changeovers.

ellyagg 13 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I noticed recently it’s cool to match the color of your vehicle to your house

zamadatix 13 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Anything beats https://blog.iseecars.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/06/Graysca...

ted_bunny 3 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Why is this? I find it hard to imagine the appeal of so much grey. Half of them look like cheap plastic.

baq 13 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

I've got a feeling this approaches 100% at airports

soco 13 hours ago | parent [-]

And Swiss architecture - birthplace of Le Corbusier, and the very definition of dull gray chunks.

alamortsubite 10 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Or clothes, if you really want to do it right, like Madeline Khan's character in High Anxiety.

cvdub 13 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Definitely!

Gen Z & A value uniqueness and authenticity. I think the customization options will resonate a lot with them.

V__ 13 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

That was my first thought as well. I can't articulate why, but if the company and product survive a few years, it feels to me like it might become a modern "cult" car.

whatever1 13 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

And then they pick black or white.

xnx 13 hours ago | parent [-]

Wraps are nice because they're not permanent and don't affect resale value. Having a car without a wrap might soon be as unusual as a phone without a case.

formerly_proven 13 hours ago | parent | next [-]

ime for many models colors are sufficiently rarely ordered from the factory that they ironically have higher resale values than the standard grey/white/black ones.

x3qt 13 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

I thought only poor people used phone cases. Otherwise, what’s the point of having an iPhone Air or any other premium built phone at all?

officeplant 12 hours ago | parent | next [-]

I don't know anyone who rocks a naked phone anymore except people like my brother, who only does it because he likes to boldly claim how rarely he drops his phone. Which is funny because he has cracked way more screens/glass backs than I have with my thin minimal cases.

esseph 6 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

> what’s the point of having an iPhone Air or any other premium built phone at all?

The ecosystem?

Its a phone, not a tank.

People not using cases on their phone are insane to me. I can't even sit these spaceships down on a non-flat surface without them sliding off. They're the thickness of playing cards.

Similar to: "I bought my phone for identity, for style, for a feeling if being on the technology edge."

Yeah, I bought a phone with a web browser in an ecosystem I like.

keanukerr 12 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

How many people have an iPhone Air?

x3qt 12 hours ago | parent [-]

That’s exactly why I added “or any other premium.” Why buy a sleek phone made of premium materials just to bury it in the cheapest, ugliest, chunkiest plastic case you can find?

alamortsubite 9 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Plenty of people buy expensive phones for the specs and features, yet either have no interest in jewelry or see it as a negative status symbol.

dzhiurgis 9 hours ago | parent [-]

And by plenty you mean minority.

alamortsubite 8 hours ago | parent [-]

Obviously, but the question I was responding to was, "Why buy a sleek phone made of premium materials just to bury it in the cheapest, ugliest, chunkiest plastic case you can find?"

baby_souffle 12 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I don't think the super cheap and chunky phone cases are analogous to a wrap here.

I know more than a few people with very expensive phones covered in thin carbon fiber style cases which are there purely to protect the glass and metal from egregious scratches, though.

esseph 6 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Its not adamantium, its still just plastics, glass, metals, and electronics.

I would never sit hours somewhere waiting to get my phone fixed, I value my time.

dzhiurgis 9 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

I have shorts that I love. They've been repaired many times by my partner. Its pockets developed a hole in a way that sometimes my phone just goes straight to the ground and my rawdog iPhone has a cracked screen and back as a result. Terrible way to save.

kart23 5 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

they’re selling a diy wrap. in other words, you get a large flat colored sticker (maybe pre-cut if you’re lucky, but these actually fit worse). wrapping your car and making it look good is NOT diy friendly, it’s a pain in the ass. you need special equipment, space to do it, etc.

it’s actually incredibly disappointing, because 99% of people are just gonna get the gray, and will be unhappy because it’s super boring.

real manufactures like porsche or bmw offer a ton of shades too, it just costs a lot, but they are very popular.

insane_dreamer 10 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I agree, this is a very smart move.

I just wish they had also released a smaller body, so you could build something close to a regular hatchback (like a Golf or Mazda 3)

vel0city 13 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

> The color options are a much bigger deal than I think many people realize.

Any mass-market car has practically the same color options. Wraps have existed for a looong time.

eddieroger 13 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Wraps exist for folks who pursue it, which is always going to be a subset of those who only look at dealer / manufacturer options. Being able to get a wrapped vehicle off the line is a new option for most buyers.

bitexploder 13 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Slate does not wrap the vehicle at manufacturing time. You do it or a service center does it for you.

baby_souffle 12 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Is that confirmed?

I was under the impression that you could order wrap from factory and it would come wrapped and not in a kit ready for you to apply.

vel0city 11 hours ago | parent [-]

The featured website here directly states you need to either install the wrap yourself or hire someone else to do it.

esseph 6 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Untrue.

Slate can wrap before delivery.

> It will operate as the central shop where the modular two-door, two-passenger pickups will be wrapped in custom colors and finishes chosen by customers, with more than 100 color options available.

https://news.dealershipguy.com/p/slate-auto-bets-on-customiz...

https://www.courier-journal.com/story/money/companies/2026/0...

vel0city 12 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

> Being able to get a wrapped vehicle off the line is a new option for most buyers

It isn't an option here. When you go to pick a wrap it directly states:

> 2 people required. 12-16 hours. A big commitment for a DIYer. We'd recommend professional installation if you're not sure you can tackle it.

The only difference is you're shopping around at wraps at purchase time, you still need to either put it on yourself or find your own shop to install it post-delivery. No different than you driving any other car off the lot and going to the body shop down the street and having them wrap it for you.

esseph 6 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Most people cannot afford a new car, therefore they do not get to choose the color options. Fearures and colors are reserved for first buyers or those lease people.

insane_dreamer 10 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

the difference is manufacturers don't advertise them, so most customers go with what they see at the dealer or on the website

llm_nerd 13 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

The four most common vehicle colours in the US are white, black, grey and silver. I believe this covers like 80%+ of vehicles. Canada is worse still (so much so that many makers basically just offer the shades of grey, sometimes with a special-order red or something for the rebels), and a few days ago I was on a walk and saw a light turn red and a dozen cars that pulled up to stop and every single one was white.

People have other colour choices, but they're constantly choosing the most spectacularly boring, neutral colours possible.

The colour thing is neat, but I'm not sure it's going to be a big deal. It might actually lead to the paradox of choice where people basically feel even worse about their options.

chucksta 13 hours ago | parent | next [-]

It also just so happens grey scale is almost always cheaper. Car color historically correlates with prosperity in the US

https://magazine.northeast.aaa.com/daily/life/cars-trucks/au...

https://www.ppg.com/en-US/autocoatings/color/history-of-colo...

jwx48 12 hours ago | parent | next [-]

That strikes me as a forced correlation. Something along the lines of "some people are willing to pay more for British racing green, so let's charge $X for it".

llm_nerd 12 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

I really don't think that's a big factor in this, at least in modern times. Maybe it was once the case where colour was difficult or something.

I mean I see the inverse as true, and entry level vehicles seem to have the most colour diversity in their sales. It is cars like the Nissan Versa where you see real colour variations.

freedomben 12 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

> It might actually lead to the paradox of choice where people basically feel even worse about their options.

Very good point, that will be interesting to see

vel0city 13 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Going by what I hear talking to friends and family, they often don't want to choose outside of those range of bland colors as they're worried about resale value. Its probably easier to find a buyer who is OK with a black car than someone who would want metallic purple and gold car or a bright pink car.

Wraps are typically pretty easy to remove. Far easier than removing a paint job.

deltoidmaximus 12 hours ago | parent | next [-]

I could have sworn there was actually some kind of study that proved this. Cars are sufficiently expensive and longer lived these days that resale value is actually something buyers at least think they need to take into account.

It's actually a little depressing if you're sitting in traffic, just watch the cars go by and see how few of them actually have a unique color. And most of the exceptions are something like an almost gray blue.

For my part I've found new car styling hideous with little difference between brands my entire adult life. Probably for nostalgic reasons I like the sharp geometric shapes of cars from the 1980s which largely disappeared with a focus aerodynamics for gas mileage. So I'm usually satisfied with whatever color is on the lot since I hate the look by default anyway.

sokoloff 12 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

If you’re that worried about resale value, I’d think that buying a 2-4 year old used car is a way better proposition.

SoftTalker 12 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

I'm not sure they are. I don't think most people give two shits about the color of a vehicle, that's why most of them today are white or silver.

volkk 12 hours ago | parent | next [-]

I think people care more than you think and it's mostly an effect of the limited options setting the tone/culture for most of society so when "exciting" colors randomly come out, nobody wants to stand out amongst the sea of silver/black/white. I bet if cars became more funky on average, people would exercise a lot more freedom in selecting wilder colors. An example of a culture of fun selection is snow sports. Colors rule the landscape, and yes sometimes for safety, but it's also because it highlights personality.

freedomben 12 hours ago | parent [-]

Agreed. I care about the color, but not enough to wait for "special order" so I end up taking whatever is in stock at the dealership, which is always the bland colors. I love a green car, but there's almost never an option (or the green is hideous)

12 hours ago | parent | prev [-]
[deleted]