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MisterTea 5 hours ago

> “I’m convinced that half of the human cases that come from cats are people who are trying to stuff pills down their cat’s throats to treat the sporotrichosis,”

Do yourself a favor, crush the pill and put it in food. Problem solved. Difficult with multiple cats but I had two and one needed medication so I put this little guys on a window sill he loved to perch on which the other cat didn't care to reach.

dormento 8 minutes ago | parent | next [-]

> Do yourself a favor, crush the pill and put it in food.

PROTIP never ever do this. The cat might just decide food is not worth having and develop liver and stomach issues. Bastards won't tell you anything is wrong, then they'll just crawl into a hole, as usual.

Source: I had the same not-good, very very bad idea and almost killed mine once. Had to go for a feeding tube and all. If you must give you cat medicine in pill form, just use one of those silicone pill "siringes" with flexible tips (and give it some Churu or similar to train it to tolerate medicine better). Washable, no fuss, quick and easy.

drdexebtjl 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

This doesn’t necessarily work. Some pills taste bad, and the cat will refuse weird-tasting food.

I recommend everyone who has healthy cats to talk to their vet about administering empty capsules. Just so you and the cat get comfortable with the process before you need it.

Kind of like you need to train them from an early age that clipping their nails is fine.

When your cat gets old, they will need to take oral supplements, at the very least. You’re the person they trust the most to give them.

thijson 3 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Maybe mix it with cat nip. My Mom used to have to mix medicine in with the pig's feed. They were very good at eating around the medicine. To get around that she would prepare a concoction of beer and molasses and feed and the medicine. They then ate all of it.

hombre_fatal 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

> When your cat gets old

> You’re the person they trust the most

-_- Gave my spry lil five year old critter a hug. He doesn't deserve to get old.

jsiepkes 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Its not always that easy. For example cerenia tastes very bitter for a cat. My cat will start drooling almost uncontrollably if he tastes it. He has a kidney condition and needs it for the rest of his life. I've tried crushing it, but he will then just ignore the food because of the bitter taste of the pill. Putting it in something like easy-pill will work a couple of times. Until he realizes the disgusting taste he is going to experience when eating the easy-pill. At that point you can't trick him anymore with an easy-pill.

So the only way I can give it to him (without drama) is by putting it deep into his mouth so he never tastes it and immediately swallows it.

nosioptar 37 minutes ago | parent | next [-]

A piller makes getting pills down them 1,000 times easier.

https://www.chewy.com/vetone-pet-piller-dogs-cats/dp/204481

sillystuff 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Some drugs are available online / locally through compounding pharmacies as transdermal creams that you apply to the inner surface of the cat's ear.

From a quick search, it looks like cerenia is available in this form.

Your last sentence, "[pilling cat] (without drama) is by putting it deep into his mouth" must mean you have a very chill cat [emphasis mine].

AdamN 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I may be crazy but I feel like we shouldn't be giving medicine to animals with communicable diseases (unless the medicine reduces the chances of animal->human transmission). We're just reducing the effectiveness of these medicines over time.

bee_rider 2 hours ago | parent | next [-]

To some extent, maybe.

Although, it needs to be balanced against other options. I’m sure this list isn’t exhaustive but we have:

* Medicine

* Uncontrolled spread

* Somehow modify the animals’ behavior to spread illnesses less

* Wipe out infected animals

2 and 4 seem less than desirable. 3… I mean “herding cats” is an expression for a reason, right? They are not very obedient in general.

Is there a good option I missed?

drdexebtjl 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Citation needed.

We ought to have learned after the Covid “herd immunity” policies that killed hundreds of thousands around the world, that infectious disease control should be grounded on actual research, and not on simplified world models.

Researchers currently recommend treatment.

CalRobert 2 hours ago | parent [-]

I think they meant to cull them

drdexebtjl 2 hours ago | parent [-]

I understand, didn’t mean to imply they were suggesting herd immunity. But then you’ll have people not taking their cats to the vet because they don’t want them to be culled, increasing exposure and limiting our access to reliable data.

My point is, take this uninformed opinion that goes against the researchers’ recommendation for what it is: wrong.

thatguy0900 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Most people now treat pets as children, expensive surgeries even are commonplace. Good luck convincing them not to medicate their pet when a medicine for the disease exists

pikminguy 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

A. I have cats that don't go anywhere special that the other cats don't go so that doesn't work unless I supervise. B. It's difficult to make sure they get the entire dose, again unless you supervise. And good luck getting a cat to finish food they've decided they are done with. C. I have cats that are picky enough to ignore any food that has a crushed pill in it. They can always tell. Yes even if I use smelly food. D. Not all medications can be safely crushed. Slowly dissolving in the stomach could be an important aspect of the delivery.

mschuster91 2 hours ago | parent [-]

> Slowly dissolving in the stomach could be an important aspect of the delivery.

Depends on the coating - some coatings only dissolve once they are out of the strongly acidic stomach. Slow dissolution is used in retarded medication, which may or may not be coincident with targeting post-stomach delivery.

pikminguy 2 hours ago | parent [-]

Yeah I was trying to get the general point of "crushing the pill could interfere with effective delivery of the medicine" without getting too far into the weeds. Honestly it's usually fine and I do think mixing crushed pills with food is an important tool in a pet owners belt. It's just not the universal solution that was being implied.

thoughtpalette 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Pill pocket treats have been great for this exact purpose.

Finnucane 3 hours ago | parent [-]

None of my cats would eat those. Regular soft cat treats have always worked better.

Finnucane 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

When I had to give my cats thyroid pills, I mushed them into soft treats. This generally worked, but sometimes took a couple of tries. But this trick only works if the cat wants the treat more than they don't want the pill. A dog can be tricked into thinking the pill is the treat.

Flavored pill compounding is apparently also an option, but I've never tried it.

mschuster91 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

> Do yourself a favor, crush the pill and put it in food.

This does not work on compounds sensitive to stomach acids. Some medications (both veterinarian and human) have to be specially coated to survive this environment [1], if you crush the pills the medication gets less effective, completely ineffective or, like ibuprofen, irritate the stomach. Or, worst case, the medication is designed for retarded release in the stomach acid - and now that you've crushed it, the entirety of the compound is dissolved in the stomach at once.

Please always ask your veterinarian/physician, the pharmacy staff and always read the medication's application notes because particularly physicians often are unaware and the same ingredient on the prescription might be fulfilled by a crushable or a non-crushable variant which only the pharmacist knows.

[1] https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magensaftresistente_Tablette