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mdorazio 9 hours ago

An AI written post talking about the importance of human connection in the age of AI is hilarious.

ashishact 8 hours ago | parent | next [-]

I had read 80% of the post and loved it. Then I came to see few comments - Saw yours and now having difficulty reading further. That means:

1. AI has gotten better - or eventually most people would like reading AI generated content 2. Author is just using AI to post-process - content is original

Anyway I did love the content.

ygouzerh 8 hours ago | parent | next [-]

I feel like the author wrote like the full plan/ substance himself, and gave to an AI the formatting. It's quite fine for me so actually, as long as the substance make sense/is logical.

Gormo 8 hours ago | parent [-]

What about the formatting seems indicative of AI generation? It just looks like normal long-form writing to me.

rustyminnow 5 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Some of the headings are very AI-cliche: "Hospitality Is a Dialogue, Service Is a Monologue"; "AI Raises the Floor. Humans Raise the Ceiling"; "Your Employees Are the Moat. The Compounding Is Invisible."

The author didn't use headings like that in their 2024 blog posts.

Jtsummers 6 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

The intro section reeks of LLM slop:

> He called the restaurant. He was put on hold for thirty minutes. When someone finally answered, they were apologetic but firm — the restaurant was fully booked. No warmth. No conversation. Just a long wait and a closed door.

If that was written by a human, it's embarrassing.

cyclonereef 6 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

I can only speak for myself here, but if I feel like I've read a whole paragraph that should have been half a sentence, that's my signal there's possibly AI generated content in there

warkdarrior 4 hours ago | parent [-]

Have you read any literature ever? Outside of technical and business docs..

ashishact 8 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I normally have conversation with opus - And I enjoy it. Maybe I am getting fine-tuned.

tootubular 7 hours ago | parent [-]

I have definitely noticed other people using LLM-choice words, myself included, more frequently. It's a strange phenomenon to witness. Obviously the models got them from us first so there must've been some popularity there prior, but the boost is clear. Blast radius, load-bearing, shape, and so on. Or maybe they were always there and my confirmation bias is in high gear.

Flashtoo 6 hours ago | parent | next [-]

One I've started noticing is the "quotation marks around a phrase awkwardly trying to bundle a concept" thing. Like all LLM cliches it's something that has been used in writing for a long time, but I've seen it so much more recently. I think lots of people have picked this up from seeing LLMs use it. But like you said, who knows.

Folcon 7 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

I do have a sneaking suspicion it's a mix of things, I'm at the point now that I do get a bit of an odd feeling whenever I'm reading AI produced content

I suspect over time it will get good enough that I'll need a larger sample size to identify it, however that won't solve what I think of as the "why does this need to exist" problem, I've noticed that a fair bit of AI content hits that mark, it can be fun, but I've not experienced that feeling of engaging with something that's been well thought out / executed, maybe we'll hit that point[0], but I suspect it will take a while

-[0]: https://xkcd.com/810/

eterm 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

AI has got better.

It read to me to be entirely generated. The lack of details that people would normally mention tripped my spidey-sense. ( Who wouldn't name-check the restaurant in the opening paragraph? )

A double check, the author appearing to take up blogging in 2023, mostly about data science, with all the tell-tale signs of generated posts.

shimman 7 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I'm always curious what types of books people like when they say they liked reading AI, so what were the last few books you've fully read + enjoyed?

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aaron695 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

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outlier99 8 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Yep https://www.pangram.com/history/d3fd8f73-af8a-4cdb-968e-7346...

kangalioo 7 hours ago | parent | next [-]

How does Pangram detect this? How do we know this is any more reliable than just asking any HN user to judge a text for AI signs, i.e. how is this more authoritative than the comments you're responding to?

computerphage 5 hours ago | parent | next [-]

https://www.pangram.com/research/how-it-works

raincole 5 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

> How do we know this

We don't. Pangram is HN's astrology. It has 99.99% accuracy (according to Pangram.)

computerphage 5 hours ago | parent [-]

They claim it has a very low false-positive rate, which is meaningfully more nuanced than "accuracy".

"Detect AI-generated content with 99.98% accuracy." -pangram themselves

drob518 8 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Oops… gotta say that I agree with the general message of the article, though.

computerphage 5 hours ago | parent [-]

Why do you agree?

drob518 26 minutes ago | parent [-]

Because I think that a world that is increasingly isolated by technology and divided by ideology is craving authentic personal interaction with real humans. And I think that’s something AI will not be able to duplicate because it requires real human beings.

holistio 8 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

> Here’s where I get frustrated, and this is the part of the article I’ve rewritten three times.

This was the chaotic evil part.

gblargg 8 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Since I couldn't be bothered, I had AI read it and tell me the outcome: they did in fact go to online-only bookings, freeing the staff from the phones so they could help customers more.

loopmonster 7 hours ago | parent [-]

Even though they were fully booked from the phone bookings regardless

LanceJones 8 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I always wonder how people can tell. For this particular article, was it the thirty-four occurrences of em dashes with spaces on either side? Something else obvious?

lozenge 6 hours ago | parent | next [-]

It is the em dashes and the excessive wordiness as well as a lot of "not this, but that".

Eg:

"Not dramatically. Just quietly. " -- This is filler words. Whether it's dramatic or quiet has no relevance to the point they're making.

It also loves threes: "Well-modelled, properly sourced, beautifully visualised to requirements" - again, all irrelevant. The point they're making is that it's measuring the wrong thing, not that "beautifully visual things can be incorrect".

"There’s a piece of this conversation that most leaders miss, and it’s the part I care about most" - this hook of "most people miss" it is very common in AI writing.

loopmonster 7 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

It was the content. So many very specific claims with no source, just stuff being made up. I don't know who Brené Brown is, perhaps she specifically researches trust, but how curious that her daughter can raise a problem with trust, specifically cite two named behaviours that build trust, and then Brown just happens to have a database of trust-building behaviours to hand, that she hasn't even analysed, ready to output a teachable moment.

brookst 7 hours ago | parent [-]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brené_Brown

I am not sure if you posted a brilliant, subtle joke... or if you're demonstrating the exact behavior that you suggest is a flag of inauthenticity.

rustyminnow 4 hours ago | parent [-]

In the article, she wasn't introduced as a researcher at all, but suddenly "She went back to her research data...". This totally smells like an LLM refactor where it re-emits surface level details, but completely misses the key beats that tie ideas together across a story.

smallerize 8 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

The tiny sentence fragments are too much for me. They trip up the flow of the text.

Also the "not this, but that" structure is overused here.

ramraj07 8 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

This particular article has the tell tale opus 4.8 smell of these short sentences. I think its mainly opus 4.8

_gmax0 8 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

When did "X is built one marble at a time" become popular? Maybe search analytics can tell us.

smallerize 8 hours ago | parent [-]

Well, this isn't what I expected. (And it only goes up to 2022.) https://books.google.com/ngrams/graph?content=one+marble+at+...

clark_dent 8 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

This one almost feels like the AI got stuck in a perseverating loop of "He <blank> the <blank>." <repeat>

This is followed up by a sprinkling of every possible punctuative shakeup: bold, em-dash, semicolon, colon, quote, etc.

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bitwize 8 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Articles of this type suggest a fun game: "LLM or Marketroid?" Because either one could have written it, and both are capable of about equivalent levels of original thought. (whoops did i just say that out loud)

AnimalMuppet 4 hours ago | parent [-]

Hey, the LLMs had to pick up these patterns from somewhere. Embarrassingly, before LLMs, there were plenty of humans that wrote like this.

frostlynx 5 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I personally thought to myself "written by AI" after this part:

... the restaurant was fully booked. No warmth. No conversation. Just a long wait and a closed door. In trying to humanise the process, he’d made it worse.

I'm sure some people write this way, but most don't. And AI writes this way.

mpalmer 6 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Well, sometimes there's flat-out nonsense that seems to have been written purely to back into the author's thesis:

    You cannot design an algorithm that eavesdrops on dinner conversation and dispatches someone to buy a street hot dog, because the person on the receiving end would immediately sense the machinery of it.
But usually there's also:

- Word count hovering between four and five thousand words - Dramatic/narrative section titles - "No X, no Y. Just Z"

Last but certainly not least, there's the Lists of Exactly Three Things. I counted literally thirty in this piece. Examples:

    - "...the ritual of a human voice, the small exchange about an anniversary or a first date, the warmth of being recognised."
    - "Who was celebrating a birthday? Who was on a first date? What had a regular not finished on their plate six months ago?"
    - "You can’t purchase it, automate it, or accelerate it with a clever marketing campaign."
    - "...forgive outages, laugh off a late delivery, stay through a price increase."
    - "...the food arrives hot, the bill is accurate, the room is clean."
    - "You notice, you adjust, you respond."
warpech 8 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

(As a non-native speaker) I didn’t notice that, I love this post and even shared it with my team

netsharc 8 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Not sure if AI slop, or LI (LinkedIn) slop...