| ▲ | everdrive 4 hours ago |
| It's always surprising when companies don't understand that people what inexpensive, quality goods. The original Ford Maverick retailed for $19,995, Ford absolutely could not keep up with production. Ultimately, they raised prices both because they could and in order to reduce demand because they could not actually product enough units. |
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| ▲ | GeekyBear 3 hours ago | parent | next [-] |
| Dell has just announced an 8 Gig of RAM version of their XPS laptop and the PR surrounding the launch is pretty funny. > "Apple's MacBook Neo is a capable machine, and its arrival confirms that there's real appetite for premium quality at accessible prices," said Dell. Who could have known that people wanted quality AND affordability? |
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| ▲ | drnick1 3 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | It is shocking that the XPS14 now starts at $2,000. | | |
| ▲ | jwagenet 10 minutes ago | parent | next [-] | | If you use wintel, unless you need bleeding edge, buy 3 year old Dell Precision refurb on eBay for a third of that. | |
| ▲ | mmcnl 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | Made me buy a MacBook Air instead. Waited for a long time because I was not a fan of macOS, but Apple is quite cheap in all segments nowadays. A well-specced MacBook Pro these days is cheaper than a ThinkPad X1 Carbon. The MacBook Air at ~$1000 price point with 16GB/512GB is also incredibly hard to beat in price, and even if you pay the premium for a Windows competitor (crazy sentence) you actually get a less than premium experience: worse build quality, worse display, worse battery life. | | |
| ▲ | philistine 2 hours ago | parent [-] | | Apple's chip count in their laptops is insanely low compared to the competition. They're reaping the rewards of their continued investment in simplicity. People are appalled that they don't use standard M.2 storage; Apple's thing is bespoke and incompatible. Evil Apple's trying to prevent us folks from upgrading our laptops!! Nope. They use standard chips without a dedicated controller, because it's all controlled directly on the M-series chip, saving them a bunch of money. Which that, with the Macbook Neo, they absolutely pass the savings down to you. |
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| ▲ | burnte 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | > Who could have known that people wanted quality AND affordability? Truly a shocking outcome! |
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| ▲ | echoangle 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| They probably know that but don’t want to cannibalize their more expensive products. |
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| ▲ | jug an hour ago | parent | next [-] | | ”If you don't cannibalize yourself, someone else will." — Steve Jobs | |
| ▲ | asdff 4 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | A lot of the buyers were never going to be buyers for the more expensive products. | | |
| ▲ | echoangle 4 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | You can afford to lose a lot of low-value low-margin buyers for not losing one high-value high-margin buyer. | | |
| ▲ | MikeNotThePope 4 hours ago | parent [-] | | I’m guessing the Neo attracts a lot of new Apple customers, many of which will become subscribers of higher margin Apple services & apps in the App Store. | | |
| ▲ | rjrjrjrj 3 hours ago | parent [-] | | New Mac customers, perhaps. But new Apple customers?
The vast majority of Neo buyers almost certainly already have an iPhone. | | |
| ▲ | GeekyBear an hour ago | parent [-] | | I saw a recent report stating that the Neo was selling well in India, where the iPhone's share is negligible. |
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| ▲ | alooPotato 4 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | that doesn't, on its own, alleviate the cannibalization concerns | | |
| ▲ | asdff 4 hours ago | parent [-] | | If they don't make this product at this pricepoint, a competitor does and that also cannibalizes potential higher sku macbook sales to a degree. Every chromebook sold is a potential macbook neo customer and apple let google eat their lunch for years. |
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| ▲ | brikym an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| It's more like they don't want paradox of choice. Think of how many windows or android products are out there. Frankly I hate thinking about buying them in case I screw up and get it wrong. Apple understands this. |
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| ▲ | varispeed 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Poor quality comes from the fact we have outsourced manufacturing. Nobody knows how to make things properly. Here in the UK you won't even find competent sheet metal fabricator (except for military or when you have more money than sense, but then whatever you want to sell will be dead in the water because of unaffordability). |
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| ▲ | the_other 3 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | > Poor quality comes from the fact we have outsourced manufacturing. My experience with software development suggests this is not the main driver. The main driver seems to be management not caring about quality, UX, long term maintainance costs, externalities, and by viewing customer service as a cost rather than as branding. | |
| ▲ | vablings 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | Considering that Apple laptops are made by Foxconn in China that firmly proves your argumentation false. People do know how to make things properly the problem is all those people are in China for a laundry list of reasons as long as my arms in a circle |
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| ▲ | Crunchified 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Just so you know, the original Ford Maverick started out at just under $2,000 in 1970. |
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| ▲ | thinkingtoilet 4 hours ago | parent | prev [-] |
| I would happily buy a laptop with medium specs but apple build quality. I don't know if the Neo's build quality is on par with their other laptops but if it is it's probably my next laptop. |
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| ▲ | wyre 4 hours ago | parent [-] | | From the reviews, my impression is that the Neo has Apple's build quality, but they cut some costs to save on machining the chassis, and the trackpad doesn't have the haptic motor. |
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