Ah, I misread your earlier revision's enthusiasm at the end as being about the mechanical key, not the CT scan.

It's entirely possible that the BYD key they scanned and the BYD key you possess are of different designs.

I suppose it makes sense, back then you wouldn't think there would be an existing supply chain of companies like Mopar just waiting for a car manufacturer to spin up and start buying their stuff

They would go so far as to license components for in-source production from suppliers who couldn't meet the needed volume.

IBM no longer has fabs (spun off as Globalfoundries and later sold), and no longer manufactures PCs (sold to Lenovo?), but it does make mainframes I guess?

Apparently both can be done together, it's just that it takes a bunch more effort so most places don't bother.

FWIW, this has been my experience since 2003 when I had to get suspension work done. Doesn’t matter if it’s a BMW or Honda, dealership or indie repair shop, the story I have heard consistently is that the bushing is part of the arm for structural integrity, stability, <reason I can’t remember, truth or crock>. Bushings typically fail faster than the arm does, and this repair is expensive ($1000+ for performance cars, not that much cheaper for Civics).

The “Design for purported Safety vs. Design for Saving Dollars” principle at work.

Instead of $40 part it is $150 part. Very easy to replace. Less than 1 hour labor for both sides.

https://www.rockauto.com/en/catalog/jeep,2012,grand+cherokee...

EU added "cybersecurity" requirements in response to Comma.ai that means that a lot of ECUs going forward use signed messages AND often crypto key pairing against an onboard security auth box. The pairing process often require something like a scuffed up manufacturer rental Panasonic Toughbook with weird half baked apps and passwords. The car would refuse to drive or whatever if the owner wouldn't play along with that game.

>Power electronics are still modular and are easily swappable.

Only if someone makes and sells those power electronics to you along with the appropriate DRM tools required for calibration and pairing with the other electronics of the car. Otherwise you're shit outta luck.

>Mechanical parts are more integrated, but they so simple that they can last for decades.

Simple != decades of reliability, when the design and manufacturing quality are piss poor in the race to the bottom for cost cutting and shareholder returns. Timing chains were also supposed to last a lifetime but plenty have been recalled due to know timing chain issues from manufacturing quality.

VW and Kia/Hyundai EVs were found to use custom dimensions motor bearings that can't be bought on the open market from anywhere, so only the OEM and their dealers can get them via their supply chain.

People don’t want cars they can tinker with, they want cars they can get repaired instead of replaced when something breaks….

>There's a reason everyone calls them mobile phones with wheels.

Which is why I'm so baffled how and why the EU has spent so much time and effort regulating batteries and charging ports for phones, but still ignores this massive issue of ease of repairability and right to repair of personal vehicles that has been plaguing car owners since the ICE days and is now only getting worse with EVs, that's costing us a lot more money than what's costing users to pay Apple to replace your cracked display and dead battery.

It feels like they just keep going for the lowest hanging fruits to score easy wins that don't impact local industry, while ignoring the entire forest behind them.

Jarvis, pull up on the central HUD how much the EU car industry spent on lobbying in the EU over the last 15 years.

I own a Model 3 and I like driving it, but I scratch my head at everyone who claims there are no mechanical problems. I'm glad you didn't have any, but there are some repairs that are almost obscenely common.

In the past year, the heater failed (PTC Heater had to be replaced), and the lateral link ball joint ball joint had to be replaced. That is about CAD5000$ worth of work. There is also an issue with a wire in the rear center seatbelt that broke (but after a check, it doesn't really have any safety concerns wrt airbags so it is OK to leave as is), and the top roof glass cracked. (I also had to replace the front windshield, but that's normal in Calgary and I don't hold it against the car)

I'm not "rough handling", I have a Toyota Sienna without any of these problems. On the bright side, the battery has no problems and no imbalances so fixing it will keep the car running for years (hopefully).

I bring this up because I find it very annoying that people were painting hagiographies of these cars when they have real issues. None of the issues above should be happening. Moreover, there are no 3rd parties providing parts (supposedly because of patents).

In the end, I'll never buy another gas car again but my cute tiny car has a bigger turn radius than my Sienna. It's lost more value than my Sienna. I agree with the poster who said that it isn't even clear if Tesla is interested in cars anymore.

If BYD is also creating cars that are expensive to maintain, then hard pass. I'm ok with having legislation to fix this.

> manufacturers are just making gas cars with EV power trains. Tesla and BYD are making next gen transport.

From what I see online, Teslas, especially MS/MX, are actually quite like an EV-swapped Toyota than anything futuristic. A lot about their cars(exception being CT and Semi) are ICE-mass-market-car coded. They're car equivalents of ARM PCs in ATX form factor like NVIDIA's DGX Station, opposite to the likes of trashcan Mac Pro.

>Most of those stories are 1/ crashes and 2/ hybrids.

No, they're faulty coolant seals of the electric motor, wrecking the power unit.

>but those memories are overwhelmed by the terror of “what is that noise”.

I just turned up the music till the noise went away. Problem solved.

>Now I drive a Tesla that accelerates faster than that Camaro, handles better, and hasn’t been to the shop once.

Good for you, but do you know there's a whole lotta other EV brands out there? And many are not as well and reliably designed as your Tesla.

>I do remember the visceral joy of trying to keep a supercharged Camaro [...] If I win the lottery I will buy another Camaro and a Corvette and I’ll work on them for fun

Nice story, but what does all this have to do with the parent you're replying to? Did he mention ICEs anywhere?

US manufacturers' niche is half-ton and above trucks. Even mighty Toyota's offering is playing distant #4 in that market with Nissan capitulating after 20 years of trying.