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mnahkies 4 hours ago

I don't have so much knowledge about EV repairs, but I got burnt by this on ICE cars already - had a car fail a regular fitness test on suspension bushes, they weren't replaceable without replacing the whole arm(s). What should've been a $40 part was being quoted as more than the cars value.

(I'm not sure if there was a way around this, there may well have been but I had other things going on and sold for scrap)

jhatax 3 hours ago | parent | next [-]

FWIW, this has been my experience since 2003 when I had to get suspension work done. Doesn’t matter if it’s a BMW or Honda, dealership or indie repair shop, the story I have heard consistently is that the bushing is part of the arm for structural integrity, stability, <reason I can’t remember, truth or crock>. Bushings typically fail faster than the arm does, and this repair is expensive ($1000+ for performance cars, not that much cheaper for Civics).

The “Design for purported Safety vs. Design for Saving Dollars” principle at work.

simplyluke 2 hours ago | parent [-]

> repair is expensive ($1000+ for performance cars, not that much cheaper for Civics)

I can almost guarantee the lion's share of this is shop labor, not parts, and pressing a bushing out and back in would be more expensive after accounting for that labor than just swapping the suspension arms. This is often the piece that gets missed in these discussions of "why am I replacing this huge assembly for a tiny part", if the whole assembly is coming out to deal with that tiny part anyways and shop labor is $200/hour it's cheaper to swap the assembly a lot of the time.

Try getting any repair beyond routine maintenance done on a car in the US for under $1000 these days. Car maintenance is one of the things I'm happy to DIY in most cases because the delta on costs is massive and as someone that works on computers all day it's vaguely enjoyable to get angry at a mechanical object for a change.

slaw 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Instead of $40 part it is $150 part. Very easy to replace. Less than 1 hour labor for both sides.

https://www.rockauto.com/en/catalog/jeep,2012,grand+cherokee...