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The Science Behind Honey's Eternal Shelf Life (2013)(smithsonianmag.com)
24 points by downbad_ 3 hours ago | 15 comments
wolfi1 an hour ago | parent | next [-]

I don't know for the US, but in Europe fake honey is a big problem. There were several grocery chains who had to call back their honey because of it

mhb 44 minutes ago | parent | next [-]

Yes. Good episode about fake honey and its interaction with almond growing: https://freakonomics.com/podcast/beeconomics-101/

brk an hour ago | parent | prev [-]

That has been a global problem, lots of it in the US as well. I tend to only buy honey from known local producers, either at specialty stores or street markets.

rickydroll an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-]

2,000-year-old honey that's still edible? Oh, I so want to taste. My grandfather was a beekeeper, and I learned about the different flavors of honey as he harvested from different locations throughout the season.

It's fun to purchase honey from beekeepers a hundred miles away and see how the flavor changes. I personally like late-season honeys, which tend to have richer flavors from late-summer and fall flowers.

A rare treat I've had was honey from Pitcairn Island. This is how you get in the queue for a jar. https://pitkernartisangallery.pn/products/pipco-pitcairn-isl... https://livebeekeeping.com/honey/pitcairn-island-honey/

mhb 42 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-]

> So if you’re interested in keeping honey for hundreds of years, do what the bees do and keep it sealed

Doesn't this make honey somewhat less unique? Aren't there many foods that will keep for hundreds of years if kept sealed?

cameron_b 22 minutes ago | parent [-]

Most foods taken from nature will still rot in their naturally-sealed forms. Pressure canned foods last a long time but use far more robust and energy intensive processes than a thin layer of wax and "the way that it is" to seal and stabilize the contents.

Ferments could be an outlier but usually dance on the edge of rot by design and can last longer than the raw cabbage or milk or meat they start from, but like honeycomb, they must be carefully stored.

downbad_ 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=11951860

neogodless 2 hours ago | parent [-]

Above from 2016 (87 comments), and original from 2013:

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=6263724 The Science Behind Honey’s Eternal Shelf Life (smithsonianmag.com) 86 comments

robthebrew 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

There is an interesting story (only slightly relevant) about glycerine. It was a pure liquid, held in many labs throughout the world. Until for some reason it crystallised in one lab. Wishing a short amount of time all the world's samples crystallised.

mrob 2 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Sounds similar to the real-life case of ritonavir:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ritonavir#Polymorphism_and_tem...

bradyd 2 hours ago | parent [-]

Veritasium just did a video on this.

https://youtu.be/ksn5yrsC3Wg

tcskeptic 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Just to be clear -- this story is fictional, it did not happen in real life. It has become a bit of an urban legend because of a video game but does not have a basis in fact.

harperlee 2 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Interesting! Could you expand?

wduquette 43 minutes ago | parent | prev [-]

Obligatory reference to Ice-9 in Kurt Vonnegut's Cat's Cradle: a form of water ice that freezes at a high temperature.

ge96 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Tangent vulture bees yuck