| ▲ | huntertwo 9 hours ago |
| Even when Israel strikes first, someone else started it. Brilliant! |
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| ▲ | sysguest 8 hours ago | parent | next [-] |
| hmm isn't the whole thing a continuation of "revenge against hamas's attack on Oct 7th 2023" ? hamas being a proxy to iran, I don't get why people think iran as some "peace loving, innocent country" well, are they? raping/killing some *foreigners* and displaying their bodies as parade... well that's not very "peace loving and innocent" is it? |
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| ▲ | huntertwo 7 hours ago | parent [-] | | When you make a ceasefire and then strike first, that’s called being the aggressor. How many civilians has Israel killed since oct 7? When is it enough? Israel killed >50k civilians since October 7 between all the conflicts Revenge is not a justification for destroying civilizations. Israelis also rape, kill, and do other vile things to prisoners, innocent or guilty, who they imprison with or without charge. | | |
| ▲ | sysguest 6 hours ago | parent [-] | | > Israelis also rape, kill, and do other vile things to prisoners, innocent or guilty, who they imprison with or without charge. well but do israelis parade their dead rape victims openly? > When you make a ceasefire and then strike first well that's between trump and iran? did netanyahu agree? I agree that netanyahu is being a dick here: he should have focused on iran, instead of invading lebanon. That alone is a huge political/PR mistake but... how's that ceasefire related? is israel a proxy of usa? does Trump control israel directly? Ethically, the israel politicians goes at great length NOT to damage civilians: the walkie-talkie bomb is a classic example of "try to kill all the militants WITHOUT carpet bombing" (though they failed to "kill all" with that scheme, and... well they did bomb a lot after that) | | |
| ▲ | krige 6 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | > well but do israelis parade their dead rape victims openly? 1) why is that an important distinction? 2) but since you asked, they do, western media just refuse to show it but all you need to do is follow a bunch of israeli instagram accounts and you'll see more than enough sooner rather than later | | |
| ▲ | sysguest 5 hours ago | parent [-] | | > 2) but since you asked, they do, western media just refuse to show it but all you need to do is follow a bunch of israeli instagram accounts and you'll see more than enough sooner rather than later woah... big claims here! maybe you should post source? |
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| ▲ | justsomehnguy 6 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | > well but do israelis parade their dead rape victims openly? Ah, this is where you draw the line? | | |
| ▲ | sysguest 6 hours ago | parent [-] | | well where do YOU draw the line then? One side openly tries to do maximum death on everyone including infants (eg. fire random missiles, intifada, and the oct 7th attack) The other side at least tried their best NOT to attack back (expensive missile defense systems) or at least kill only the militants selectively (walkietalkie boomboom) I mean, you should be ashamed of even comparing israel vs iran/hamas/etc | | |
| ▲ | watwut 5 hours ago | parent [-] | | > One side openly tries to do maximum death on everyone including infants That would be israel with special focus on journalists and doctors > The other side at least tried their best NOT to attack back As idiotic as it is, Iran shown more restraint then Israel and USA against other countries. Internaly not, but ouyside yes. They played tit for tat. | | |
| ▲ | sysguest 2 hours ago | parent [-] | | > Iran shown more restraint then Israel and USA against other countries
> They played tit for tat. like... firing missiles at UAE...? launching drone to dubai tower? did India do anything to iran to get its ships fired upon? blocking hormuz strait... that alone was enough to trigger global coalition -- though due to Trump's trade dick move to allies... no one sent troops... if it's "tit for tat", then why does iran make so many un-related countries suffer (eg india?) well simple: iran is the new pirate of 21st century. nothing more or less. if anyone says "that's because US attacked", then if I got hit by a car, can I have my revenge on nearby pedestrians? |
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| ▲ | grumple 9 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2024_Iran%E2%80%93Israel_confl... |
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| ▲ | huntertwo 9 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | First paragraph > On 1 April, Israel bombed an Iranian consulate complex in Damascus, Syria, killing multiple senior Iranian officials.[28] In response, Iran and its Axis of Resistance allies seized the Israeli-linked ship MSC Aries and launched strikes inside Israel on 13 April.[6] Not to mention, Israeli occupations in Syria, Lebanon, Gaza, and the West Bank. Iran is not the only bad actor. | |
| ▲ | stogot 8 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | That’s 2024, you said the proxies started it in 2023? | | |
| ▲ | breppp 7 hours ago | parent [-] | | https://www.wsj.com/world/middle-east/hamas-fighters-trained... https://israel-alma.org/special-report-for-years-iran-planne... There was extensive planning for a multi front attack including Iran, Hamas and Hezbollah. The story of this war is the previous idea in Israel that you could work out with an extremely religious enemy at the border as underneath their claiming to want to destroy you, they are rational. After Hamas decided to go on a national suicide for no achievement except for a single day of an orgy of violence and the complete destruction of gaza, that view has changed. This puts Hezbollah similar to Hamas, and their patron Iran ballistic and nuclear weapon program in a different light, and makes preemptive strikes and the complete destruction of the Iranian Axis (largely successful) as an important goal for Israel |
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| ▲ | fortran77 6 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| I hope the FBI and DHS take note of American tech workers who support Iran and its proxies. No government agency should go anywhere near a YCombinator company. |
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| ▲ | razster 5 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | This sentiment strikes me as somewhat beneath the usual caliber I see here. Perhaps it would serve you well to step away from the keyboard for a while: take a walk, grab a drink at a bar, enjoy a quiet evening, and allow some real-world perspective to settle in. | |
| ▲ | huntertwo an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | Is that what I’m doing? Am I providing support to Iran? Or am I just expressing an opinion that criticizes Israel? | |
| ▲ | franczesko 5 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | You don't have to support Iran, to condemn Israel. | | |
| ▲ | razster 5 hours ago | parent [-] | | Agreed. One doesn’t dictate the other’s signal—step away from the monitor, let the noise fade, and you’ll notice they’re running on parallel tracks. |
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| ▲ | DaSHacka 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | Lol you mean until two years from now, when tides will inevitably shift? The so-called "Zion-don" won't be in office forever, despite what he seems to believe. Look at the polling. The current U.S. stance on Iran and Israel is extremely unpopular. It's only a matter of time before a natural course correction occurs, and the voters' voice is heard, whether at the upcoming midterms or the next presidential election. And let me tell you, if you think HN is bad, you better not check Zoomer social media. | |
| ▲ | nielsbot 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | protesting an idiotic war started for Israel is not supporting Iran. Seems obvious! |
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| ▲ | UltraSane 7 hours ago | parent | prev [-] |
| Iran has been using Hezbollah to attack Israel for over 30 years now. The explicit goal of Iran, Hezbollah, and Hamas is the destruction of Israel. |
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| ▲ | b345 4 hours ago | parent [-] | | Absolute bullcrap. Hezbollah was created to stop illegal Israeli occupation of Lebanon. What hezbollah has done to the Israelis is nothing more than what they deserve |
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