When you make a ceasefire and then strike first, that’s called being the aggressor.

How many civilians has Israel killed since oct 7? When is it enough?

Israel killed >50k civilians since October 7 between all the conflicts

Revenge is not a justification for destroying civilizations.

Israelis also rape, kill, and do other vile things to prisoners, innocent or guilty, who they imprison with or without charge.

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sysguest 6 hours ago | parent [-]

> Israelis also rape, kill, and do other vile things to prisoners, innocent or guilty, who they imprison with or without charge.

well but do israelis parade their dead rape victims openly?

> When you make a ceasefire and then strike first

well that's between trump and iran? did netanyahu agree?

I agree that netanyahu is being a dick here: he should have focused on iran, instead of invading lebanon. That alone is a huge political/PR mistake

but... how's that ceasefire related? is israel a proxy of usa? does Trump control israel directly?

Ethically, the israel politicians goes at great length NOT to damage civilians: the walkie-talkie bomb is a classic example of "try to kill all the militants WITHOUT carpet bombing"

(though they failed to "kill all" with that scheme, and... well they did bomb a lot after that)

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krige 6 hours ago | parent | next [-]

> well but do israelis parade their dead rape victims openly?

1) why is that an important distinction?

2) but since you asked, they do, western media just refuse to show it but all you need to do is follow a bunch of israeli instagram accounts and you'll see more than enough sooner rather than later

	▲	sysguest 6 hours ago \| parent [-]
		> 2) but since you asked, they do, western media just refuse to show it but all you need to do is follow a bunch of israeli instagram accounts and you'll see more than enough sooner rather than later woah... big claims here! maybe you should post source?

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justsomehnguy 6 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

> well but do israelis parade their dead rape victims openly?

Ah, this is where you draw the line?

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sysguest 6 hours ago | parent [-]

well where do YOU draw the line then?

One side openly tries to do maximum death on everyone including infants (eg. fire random missiles, intifada, and the oct 7th attack)

The other side at least tried their best NOT to attack back (expensive missile defense systems) or at least kill only the militants selectively (walkietalkie boomboom)

I mean, you should be ashamed of even comparing israel vs iran/hamas/etc

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watwut 5 hours ago | parent [-]

> One side openly tries to do maximum death on everyone including infants

That would be israel with special focus on journalists and doctors

> The other side at least tried their best NOT to attack back

As idiotic as it is, Iran shown more restraint then Israel and USA against other countries. Internaly not, but ouyside yes. They played tit for tat.

	▲	sysguest 2 hours ago \| parent [-]
		> Iran shown more restraint then Israel and USA against other countries > They played tit for tat. like... firing missiles at UAE...? launching drone to dubai tower? did India do anything to iran to get its ships fired upon? blocking hormuz strait... that alone was enough to trigger global coalition -- though due to Trump's trade dick move to allies... no one sent troops... if it's "tit for tat", then why does iran make so many un-related countries suffer (eg india?) well simple: iran is the new pirate of 21st century. nothing more or less. if anyone says "that's because US attacked", then if I got hit by a car, can I have my revenge on nearby pedestrians?