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alkonaut 5 hours ago

> We have a few more picky customers in Germany.

Describe making business in Europe with one evergreen sentence

askonomm 5 hours ago | parent [-]

Because companies here actively want to avoid breaking the law, as opposed to the U.S where breaking the law is just a matter of paying some $ to the grifter in chief? I always find it funny when Europeans being proactive about that sort of stuff is somehow a bad thing from Americans point of view. Like wanting decent human rights and not having to bend over to megacorps is something we should not have.

Though, if the Americans in question just want to do their grifting in EU, it makes sense why they are upset at that, I guess, because it limits their grifting opportunities.

owlcompliance 3 hours ago | parent | next [-]

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Ylpertnodi 3 hours ago | parent [-]

Paris was a shithole 40 years ago, too. It's only free speech if the .gov says so.p Rapists get set free in all countries all the time.

lo_zamoyski 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

> companies here actively want to avoid breaking the law

This is hilarious. This reminds me of Soviet propaganda. "No, there was no Chernobyl disaster. Please disregard the corpses. Yes, the centrally-planned economy is doing fantastically, better than expected. Reports of famines and shortages are imperialist propaganda."

(Mind you, the Soviets are not alone here, but the blatant chutzpah of Soviet propaganda is perhaps more conspicuous to the Western eye than the Western varieties of PR and psychological manipulation.)

joe_mamba 5 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

>Because companies here actively want to avoid breaking the law

Haha, yeah sure. What other fairy tales you gonna tells us next?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Volkswagen_emissions_scandal

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siemens#2005_and_continuing:_w...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wirecard_scandal

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parmalat_bankruptcy_timeline

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Airbus#Bribery_allegations

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CumEx-Files

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lafarge_scandal

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pfizergate

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ING_Group#Money_laundering_cas...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rolls-Royce_Holdings#Corruptio...

Arodex 3 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Thank you for your brilliant demonstration of survivorship bias.

How many people were punished for Enron? For the subprime crisis? Etc.

In the US, you just give a little money for the president's ballroom and you are pardoned. Or you settle out of court because your justice system is crap.

selectodude 3 hours ago | parent [-]

The CEO of Enron was convicted and died two months before sentencing and the COO got 12 years.

Interestingly the chief accountant of Enron ended up getting a job in Europe after he got out of prison.

joe_mamba 30 minutes ago | parent [-]

>Interestingly the chief accountant of Enron ended up getting a job in Europe after he got out of prison.

But, but ..Europeans here said they don't tolerate crooks.

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watwut 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Yes, European companies break the law too. However, the comment this was about literally mocked the companies that are actively trying to follow the law.

So yes, such companies exist and plenty of people see their existence as a good thing rather then something to mock.

jgwil2 4 hours ago | parent | next [-]

That comment mocked German customers; it didn't mention companies at all.

Mashimo 4 hours ago | parent | next [-]

I read it like the customers where German based companies.

rat9988 4 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Obviously B2B given the context

mothballed 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Law has no virtue in and of itself.

21asdffdsa12 3 hours ago | parent [-]

It also ultimately a expression of might makes right (sad as this is) and as the current culture supports a decline of western might, it also undoes the law - first international, than domestic. We simply decided to burden our might with these restriction fictions, others feel not at all compelled to follow.

I expect to see further selling out of these laws, as the economic prosperity declines. I can perfectly see german law limiting german companies from developing and selling AI products, while at the same time allowing us companies for a "pay our retires and pension-plans" kickback.

esafak 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

In Europe, those are scandals. In the US, it's another Tuesday.

joe_mamba 4 hours ago | parent [-]

If we keep moving the goalposts you can make any argument

Arodex 3 hours ago | parent [-]

What goalposts? Your sitting president, himself a conman is pardoning fraudsters left and right while he and his family enrich themselves with public money and extortion.

joe_mamba 31 minutes ago | parent | next [-]

> Your sitting president, himself a conman

I'm European so "your president" Ursula would technically be a con-woman depending on what her pronouns are.

Not sure what your argument was with this cheap jab.

Ylpertnodi 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Shhhh, don't tell them, it'll be funnier at the end.

joe_mamba 28 minutes ago | parent [-]

What's "the end"?

pyrale 4 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Let me rephrase this: companies want to avoid breaking the law unknowingly, because their US providers are going to break the law without notice, willingly or unwillingly.

Plenty of corporations are willing to break the rules, but never for free.

guywithahat 3 hours ago | parent [-]

> because their US providers are going to break the law without notice, willingly or unwillingly

This is a weird hill to die on because it's not true. I can't find anything to support your world view and if anything evidence points to the contrary. Europe has a deliberately more complex legal framework, usually in the hopes of keeping out foreign competition (although it's dubious whether or not that actually works).

pyrale 3 hours ago | parent [-]

> I can't find anything to support your world view

Just look at US laws pertaining to data that goes through US companies.