| ▲ | joe_mamba 4 hours ago |
| >Because companies here actively want to avoid breaking the law Haha, yeah sure. What other fairy tales you gonna tells us next? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Volkswagen_emissions_scandal https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siemens#2005_and_continuing:_w... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wirecard_scandal https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parmalat_bankruptcy_timeline https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Airbus#Bribery_allegations https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CumEx-Files https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lafarge_scandal https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pfizergate https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ING_Group#Money_laundering_cas... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rolls-Royce_Holdings#Corruptio... |
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| ▲ | Arodex 3 hours ago | parent | next [-] |
| Thank you for your brilliant demonstration of survivorship bias. How many people were punished for Enron? For the subprime crisis? Etc. In the US, you just give a little money for the president's ballroom and you are pardoned. Or you settle out of court because your justice system is crap. |
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| ▲ | selectodude 3 hours ago | parent [-] | | The CEO of Enron was convicted and died two months before sentencing and the COO got 12 years. Interestingly the chief accountant of Enron ended up getting a job in Europe after he got out of prison. | | |
| ▲ | joe_mamba 28 minutes ago | parent [-] | | >Interestingly the chief accountant of Enron ended up getting a job in Europe after he got out of prison. But, but ..Europeans here said they don't tolerate crooks. |
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| ▲ | watwut 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Yes, European companies break the law too. However, the comment this was about literally mocked the companies that are actively trying to follow the law. So yes, such companies exist and plenty of people see their existence as a good thing rather then something to mock. |
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| ▲ | jgwil2 4 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | That comment mocked German customers; it didn't mention companies at all. | | | |
| ▲ | mothballed 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | Law has no virtue in and of itself. | | |
| ▲ | 21asdffdsa12 3 hours ago | parent [-] | | It also ultimately a expression of might makes right (sad as this is) and as the current culture supports a decline of western might, it also undoes the law - first international, than domestic. We simply decided to burden our might with these restriction fictions, others feel not at all compelled to follow. I expect to see further selling out of these laws, as the economic prosperity declines. I can perfectly see german law limiting german companies from developing and selling AI products, while at the same time allowing us companies for a "pay our retires and pension-plans" kickback. |
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| ▲ | esafak 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| In Europe, those are scandals. In the US, it's another Tuesday. |
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| ▲ | joe_mamba 4 hours ago | parent [-] | | If we keep moving the goalposts you can make any argument | | |
| ▲ | Arodex 3 hours ago | parent [-] | | What goalposts? Your sitting president, himself a conman is pardoning fraudsters left and right while he and his family enrich themselves with public money and extortion. | | |
| ▲ | joe_mamba 29 minutes ago | parent | next [-] | | > Your sitting president, himself a conman I'm European so "your president" Ursula would technically be a con-woman depending on what her pronouns are. Not sure what your argument was with this cheap jab. | |
| ▲ | Ylpertnodi 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | Shhhh, don't tell them, it'll be funnier at the end. | | |
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| ▲ | pyrale 4 hours ago | parent | prev [-] |
| Let me rephrase this: companies want to avoid breaking the law unknowingly, because their US providers are going to break the law without notice, willingly or unwillingly. Plenty of corporations are willing to break the rules, but never for free. |
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| ▲ | guywithahat 3 hours ago | parent [-] | | > because their US providers are going to break the law without notice, willingly or unwillingly This is a weird hill to die on because it's not true. I can't find anything to support your world view and if anything evidence points to the contrary. Europe has a deliberately more complex legal framework, usually in the hopes of keeping out foreign competition (although it's dubious whether or not that actually works). | | |
| ▲ | pyrale 3 hours ago | parent [-] | | > I can't find anything to support your world view Just look at US laws pertaining to data that goes through US companies. |
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