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Filing the corners off my MacBooks(kentwalters.com)
284 points by normanvalentine 3 hours ago | 179 comments
culopatin a minute ago | parent | next [-]

A very even 45 degree cut, like the cut to lift the screen but much shallower would look pretty cool. Maybe 2mm wide

inatreecrown2 16 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Lovely writing! And I think the understanding that one can and should modify their tools to their needs is rather rare and should be appreciated.

420official 41 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I just did this to my MacBook not because of the sharp edge but because the pitting turns a sharp edge into a sawblade. Something about the grounding on on the frame when plugged in mixed with my sweaty hands leads to damage along this sharp edge on every MacBook I've ever owned.

See https://www.reddit.com/r/macbook/s/hbyVh5SJhw for another poor soul with the same caustic skin

al_borland 8 minutes ago | parent [-]

This comment is concerning.

> acidic sweat. once you got through the anodization the raw aluminum wears faster....

If one files off the sharp edges, won’t the sweat eat through everything faster, as that protective layer was filed off.

yreg 44 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-]

The takeaway from this article should be to consider modifying your tools to your needs even in unconventional and controversial ways. I love it.

The flame war on whether the original chassis design sucks or rocks is not that interesting.

Steltek 3 minutes ago | parent [-]

This is why I like cheaper tools. Yes, that means cheaper quality but it's far easier to approach taking a dremel to it. And the DIY look usually matches the stock materials better anyway.

kvuj 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Maybe I'm autistic, but I loooove the sharp edges near the opening. They've become almost a nervous tick of playing with them with my fingers.

I've got no idea why, but the sharp feeling is amazing.

delecti 39 minutes ago | parent | next [-]

Sounds kinda like pain stimming. I'm not personally a fan, but that's a thing some autistic people do. They make purpose-built toys for that, though you might already be set with your laptop.

neom 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I am autistic and I also enjoy the sharp edges, I rub my wrists up and down them sometimes and generally play with them, I find it very satisfying. I also suspect the laptop might not be as easy to carry around when open if edges were rounded?

0xDEFACED an hour ago | parent [-]

this can't be how i find out...

al_borland a minute ago | parent | next [-]

This alone doesn’t mean much, but if the signs start to compound…

LoganDark 24 minutes ago | parent | prev [-]

I looked at your posting history and if you're not diagnosed autistic you should be.

shermantanktop 21 minutes ago | parent [-]

Is there a DSM5 category for "diagnosing people on the internet"?

smallerize 17 minutes ago | parent [-]

And is it self-referential?

kokanee 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I'm conflicted -- the author's rounded Mac looks more comfortable to use, but aesthetically it looks worse. He turned the track pad notch into an amorphous shape that looks like a mistake.

autoexec 15 minutes ago | parent | next [-]

There's certainly a % of mac users who prioritize aesthetics over function. I feel like there's got to be a way to do this in a way that's more attractive though. Maybe something more gradual or even.

j45 13 minutes ago | parent | prev [-]

For many power users, Macs are an invisible laptop that just works.

When apple releases a 12" retina Macbook M-series, I'll be the first in line, I don't think there's a better laptop for size and aesthetic.

animegolem an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-]

same, i really love it and i hove my hands typing so they've never caused pain anyway

normanvalentine 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I actually agree with this too — playing with the sharp edge is kind of satisfying. Like having something in your teeth that you're working on.

sublinear 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

I don't think there's anything inherently autistic about that. We just finally have these technologies sufficiently mature that materials and design are no longer strictly dictated by their function.

These objects are becoming more like clothing and less like unyielding industrial machines. It's to the point that I'd be genuinely disgusted to handle any used laptop regardless of how "clean" it is.

topato an hour ago | parent | next [-]

Spoken like a true autist… perhaps with a side of obsession and compulsion syndrome

LtWorf an hour ago | parent | prev [-]

> materials and design are no longer strictly dictated by their function.

Ok… but I don't like to injure my wrists…

html5cat 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Not all heroes wear capes. This is excellent and can't wait to get aluminium mac next to try it – don't think Space Black is a good way to go.

Author's another post on "The Seasons are Wrong" [0] is excellent too and I fully support both approaches.

[0] https://kentwalters.com/posts/seasons/

kokanee 2 hours ago | parent | next [-]

The seasons idea is interesting -- to me, both proposals feel wrong. I think it's because the weather changes that I perceive seem to lag behind the changes to daylight length by a few weeks.

I would propose boundaries that align partly with how I perceive the weather, and partly with how we plan our year (by months): Summer starts June 1st, Fall starts September 1st, Winter starts December 1st, and Spring starts March 1st.

dpc050505 2 minutes ago | parent | next [-]

Ocean currents, elevation and distance from the equator also have a big impact on what the season is going to feel like.

There's no need to change the dates. They're already arbitrary based on the position of the sun and the earth and people have the experience to take them with the grain of salt necessary to the region they live in. People who live near the equator probably don't have much care for the notion of the winter at all. Folks who live far up north know that spring actually comes in much later than march 21st. People who climb glaciated mountains in the canadian rockies know they won't get summer conditions until late june.

html5cat 12 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-]

funny how this is actually the default for me having grown up in Ukraine.

probably same for other post-soviet countries too?

Tyr42 an hour ago | parent | prev [-]

I second this proposal. Three weeks shift can feel about right.

But we lost a lot of nice symmetries that way, which is unfortunate

Macha an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-]

On the seasons front, traditionally in Ireland winter starts on Halloween (at sunset if you want to be really specific), and so you get winter is November till January, spring is February to April, summer is May to July and autumn is August to October.

That said being an English speaking country and absorbing a lot of media from other English speaking countries, there’s been a slow drift towards the American system making its way in, so younger generations are more likely to use American seasons and older people more likely to use traditional seasons, though you’ll find people of all age groups using either. Certainly they taught the traditional seasons in school when I was a kid, I wonder which they teach now.

(Of course, you could make yet another system based on the weather where summer is approximately two weeks in July, winter is a thing that happens every few years and the rest is a sequence of mild weather with occasional wind and scattered showers)

Humphrey 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Oh, I have never heard of seasons starting mid-month. My mind is blown!

In Australia it's just split up by months, with each season being 3 months long:

March 1 - Autumn starts June 1 - Winter starts Sept 1 - Spring starts Dec 1 - Summer starts

Of cause, those in far northern Australia, only really have Dry and Wet seasons. I have no idea when those are.

nopassrecover 16 minutes ago | parent | next [-]

We were taught the same (Australian) - though it always felt slightly off as March often has major heatwaves, and December can be quite spring-like, often cool and wet.

Adelaide’s climate anecdotally feels to be more humid in recent years (historically bone dry Mediterranean climate) and the seasons feel like they’ve shifted a few weeks forward.

The Kaurna (Australian Aboriginal people of Adelaide, pronounced Gar-nuh) apparently mapped seasons a little differently, with a longer summer that resonates with my experience:

https://www.bom.gov.au/resources/indigenous-weather-knowledg...

The Noongar people of Western Australia have a 6 season model that also maps pretty well to my experience in South Australia.

https://australiassouthwest.com/six-seasons-of-the-south-wes...

LeoPanthera an hour ago | parent | prev [-]

Part of the reason for this is that climate lags behind sunlight a bit, so the end of the authors "summer" would be warmer than the beginning.

But most countries other than the USA use meteorological definitions of the seasons starting on the 1st of December, March, June, and September.

mitthrowaway2 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

There's a significant lag between the longer days and the resulting higher temperatures though, which does make the seasons make more sense temperature-wise.

eightysixfour 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

The author seems to not realize the season are about temperature not about sunlight. If you align the season to northern hemisphere temperatures, where the first week of August is usually the hottest, they make sense.

LtWorf an hour ago | parent [-]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Season

eightysixfour an hour ago | parent [-]

> A season is a division of the year[1] based on changes in weather…

jojobas 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

You can anodize aluminium black relatively easily, similar to this

https://youtu.be/y8HEZ-x4-_w?t=402

Getting the shade right could be tricky though.

aculver 39 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Love this! I did this in 2020 and until today I hadn't seen anyone else who had done it. If anyone is tempted, I recommend finishing the job with Micro-Mesh. IIRC, I went up to 12,000 grit and it results in a nicely polished look that catches the light beautifully.[1] I bet it would look even more striking on the actual black MacBooks we have today.

[1] https://x.com/andrewculver/status/1297575768520716288/photo/...

TSiege 34 minutes ago | parent [-]

Black macbooks are anodized aluminum which are thin coatings that would be removed when filing. It might look cool but it’d be the silvery color of raw aluminum

powvans 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Nitpicky, but he’s rounding the edges, not the corners.

And yes, why are they so sharp?

I seem to recall my wife having the plastic MacBook that came out circa 2006 and the edges on that thing were legitimately painful.

I always marvel at how sharp the points are on the notch of the lid on my current MacBook. Very very pointy.

jareklupinski an hour ago | parent | next [-]

> why are they so sharp?

they intentionally ship them sharp so you can file them down to your desired fillet

the design is very human

svnt an hour ago | parent | next [-]

The past few generations I found I was not pleased with their performance, so now I take them weekly to the macbook sharpener at the saturday market.

anArbitraryOne an hour ago | parent | prev [-]

It's great how apple makes everything so customizable

metrix an hour ago | parent [-]

It's by design.

Forgeties79 33 minutes ago | parent [-]

I think it’s different.

donatj an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-]

There are definitely corners by the trackpad, at the gap for opening the lid.

They are quite stabby and I hate them.

https://www.cnet.com/a/img/resize/aca51a7051edc493b19cfd93da...

vr46 an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Yeah, I had thin insulation strips running around these edges because my wrists were legit getting sore from these edges. And then Apple replaced the bottom case so they're back, as sharp as ever.

alanbernstein 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

The most material is removed at the corners of the lid-lifting notch. Those are IMO the most offensive pointy part on the body.

varispeed 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

> Very very pointy.

I have intrusive thoughts of trying to cut my finger over it, but so far the attempts were unsuccesful.

forrestthewoods 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

why? Because Apple hates you and wants you to suffer.

Alternatively, because they care about aesthetics more than utility and comfort.

LtWorf an hour ago | parent | prev [-]

I don't think apple computers are meant for people who do use computers. I used to have marks on my wrists (I no longer have an apple computer now).

cesarvarela an hour ago | parent | next [-]

Tell that to the people responsible for the trackpads of any other computer maker.

nine_k an hour ago | parent | prev [-]

Apple computers are made for those who purchases a computer. They are engineered to look great on a demo shelf.

«During the first Jobsian era at Apple, I used to joke that Steve Jobs cared deeply about Apple customers from the moment they first considered purchasing an Apple computer right up until the time their check cleared the bank.» (Bruce Tognazzini)

LASR an hour ago | parent [-]

It worked. Most people under 30 don't know Apple existed before the iPod / iPhone. ie: Before Jobs.

nine_k 2 minutes ago | parent | next [-]

Of course it worked. Apple turned from a company that sells electronic equipment into a company that sells media consumption devices which double as fashion accessories signaling high social status. Of course the addressable market is 3-4 orders of magnitude larger.

selkin 33 minutes ago | parent | prev [-]

s/Before/Between/

noman-land 11 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Everyone should be personalizing their belongings to suit their needs and desires. Living with belongings that make you feel anything less than happy and satisfied is NOT necessary.

This is a particularly hilarious customization both for its combined utility and shock value and also for doing it on a work computer.

krackers 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

There's a more thorough version of this at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RSaJAAqSAMw and the end-result doesn't look as tacky

convolvatron 2 hours ago | parent [-]

if you want to do this, there is a better technique than shown in this video.

get a single-cut fine file, maybe with a little more weight than the one in the video. single cut file has diagonal slots and allows firm and continuous contact with the piece. most files are double cut, have two sets of slots and look like bumpy diamonds. they remove more material but tend to bounce.

use long even strokes with firm pressure, only during the fore stroke. watch out for roll-off, where you unconsciously change the angle or pressure of the file as you're at the end of the stroke.

you can make a pretty even-looking chamfer that way.

vvpan an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I just came into Mac world for work and struggle to understand the choices Apple makes:

- Sharp edges eat into my forearms.

- Glossy screen makes it hard to see when it's light out.

- The keys have a real hard stop when you press on them which tires out my hands.

- An arrogant desire to obsolete ports.

I don't understand the appeal of the machine, it feels like style over function everywhere.

chihuahua 9 minutes ago | parent [-]

I, too, only use Macs when my employer forces me to do so. Here's how I made it bearable: MacBook lid stays closed at all times; plug it into a Thunderbolt hub (requires just 1 Thunderbolt port for everything); connect a proper matte monitor, external keyboard, Logitech mouse.

Now the only annoying things are the MacOS window manager (uBar attempts to fix this, but is flaky) and the weird keyboard mappings for things like "start of line", "end of line", "previous word", etc. Karabiner fixes those if you're willing to invest 3 hours in setting it up.

kube-system 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Somebody should offer a service to chuck up Macbooks in a CNC mill and hit them with a chamfer tool

Yhippa 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

As I'm typing on mine right now, I wonder why they made these so sharp. It hasn't cut me yet, but they are decidedly uncomfortable.

gruez 2 hours ago | parent | next [-]

>I wonder why they made these so sharp

So the seam looks neat when the macbook is closed, eg. https://cdn.arstechnica.net/wp-content/uploads/2022/06/MacBo...

guelo 2 hours ago | parent [-]

Form over function

kube-system 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Probably because it looks nice and crisp

loloquwowndueo 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

As a bonus the machine looks like crap so it’s far less likely to get stolen.

margalabargala 2 hours ago | parent [-]

I think it looks nice.

Though you're right that machines whose exteriors are customized and unusual are less likely to get stolen.

pugworthy 13 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Fans of My Mechanics on YouTube will chuckle at this.

The channel’s Swiss host is famous for removing sharp edges from metal things.

sbaildon 24 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-]

The author has the same problem as myself; there’s a permanent imprint on the screen that sits right where the screen makes contact with the topside of the touchpad.

It’s quite an annoying flaw, and i’ve only had this problem with the machines since the M1 redesign

bloody-crow 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Doing this to a work computer seem a bit questionable from the ethical standpoint.

Totally fine to do whatever you want to your personal belongings though.

Loughla 2 hours ago | parent [-]

My work computer is missing two keys and has been since they signed it out to me.

I'm betting they don't notice if I file down the corners. Hell they probably wouldn't notice if I just cut the corners off with a fret saw. But God forbid I try to install an ad blocker or use Firefox.

chatmasta 2 hours ago | parent [-]

I promise you they’re claiming taxes on the depreciation of that machine every year. If anything they’ll be upset you didn’t tell them sooner so they could have claimed more.

jerlam an hour ago | parent | next [-]

If you're a US employee being paid market wages, the cost of the Macbook is rather trivial compared to how much you cost the company, and how much it costs them for you to be not working. But some lower-level managers and employees don't seem to understand this.

topato an hour ago | parent | prev [-]

“DO YOU HAVE ANY IDEA OF THE PRICE FOR THE PARTS AND LABOR TO REPLACE A SINGLE, GENUINE, APPLE-BRAND, 2021, MACBOOK PRO KEYCAP?!?! CALL THE ACCOUNTANTS, WE WONT BE PAYING TAXES FOR A FEW YEARS!!!”

cwicklein an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Sitting in a reclined position on the train, I’ve had a MacBook fly into my face when the car lurched and slice my nose open. Bled all over.

mjamesaustin 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I'm not brave enough to try this on my own, but I applaud the effort. I'm pretty sure I'm developing lasting calluses on the underside of my wrists from all the constant rubbing against the sharp edge of my MBP.

starkeeper 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

A hero post. I'm pretty sure we'll be able to shave using the edge of iPhone Air 20 or whatever they are coming up with. iPhone Stiletto.

Topfi an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I thought this was going to be on a softwarefix for the appalling inconsistency that are macOS Tahoe window corners. What I found deeply disturbed me, though I must agree, the edges are a bit more sharp then I'd like and a slight curvature could probably prevent them showing wear and tear [0]. Good on op for doing something they like, even if it's really out there and I could see more "pillowy" hardware becoming a thing now, after a few years of sharp edged devices.

Since I mentioned Tahoe, it bears repeating, my spotlight is still broken.

[0] https://ljpuk.net/2025/05/23/how-does-the-space-black-macboo...

saagarjha 35 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I feel like this is only a problem if you’re keeping your wrists at an unergonomic angle. I’m not saying that everyone is perfect all the time but like this is barely an issue if you’re sitting at your desk?

maest 33 minutes ago | parent [-]

Laptops are used in so many more situations than just sitting at a desk.

Literally "you're holding it wrong".

saagarjha 32 minutes ago | parent [-]

Most of those are wrong, yes

nickvec 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

> This was on my work computer.

Bold move to do this on your work Macbook. I'd be too worried of getting chased down with a bill when returning the laptop eventually.

lostlogin 2 hours ago | parent [-]

‘I’ve done a lot of work and it wore down’

jasonjmcghee an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Depending on how I'm using the computer, I may definitely have deep marks after working laying down, but if I sit in a wood chair for a while it's the same thing- and my forearm is much tougher than behind my knee.

I suppose I would prefer it nice and rounded and soft on my wrist - but I don't feel like it's quite as extreme as this thread would have you believe lol

jasonidol 29 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-]

One concern with doing this would be when you pack it in a bag and the screen would now flex more than usual, leading to excessive wear of the anti-reflective coating on these screens.

Since the edge has been filed away, the rubber seal on the screen would no longer presses against the edge of the body protecting the screen.

nateburke 32 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I did this at my last job, it's nice.

fragmede 6 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-]

OMFG I am so glad to hear I am not the only one! The stupid thing hurt my wrists on the white Macbook generation so I shaved it off so it wasn't so sharp.

patsplat 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Physical objects should be rounded, virtual windows should be square. I will die on this hill.

kibwen 2 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Tim Cook here, we've heard you loud and clear, the next Macbook will have a perfectly circular screen with square windows.

christophilus 2 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Jony Ive here. I’ll come back and help make your new keyboard perfectly flat and seamless- touchpad based, and we’ll remove all ports. Bluetooth devices only.

ryandrake 2 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Alan Dye here. I'm coming back to Apple, and the next versions of the operating systems will not even have visible controls or icons. You just have to click on the beautiful, clear windows and hope you're interacting with the right UI elements.

schmeichel 2 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Steve Ballmer here, DEVELOPERS, DEVELOPERS, DEVELOPERS, DEVELOPERS, DEVELOPERS!

topato an hour ago | parent [-]

DEVELOPERS, DEVELOPERS, DEVELOPERS, DEVELOPERS. DEVELOPERS, DEVELOPERS, DEVELOPERS, DEVELOPERS. WHOOOOOOOOOO!!!

also, where is the new version of Visual Basic, Ballmer? Your sweaty chants can only distract me for so long…. Wait….. ITS BEEN TWENTY YEARS!?!?

matthewmc3 39 minutes ago | parent | prev [-]

Scott Forstall here. I’ll resign before I apologize for the choices we make at Apple. All our research shows you’re gonna love it, and if you say you don’t it’s because you’re wrong, not me.

dlev_pika 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Steve Jobs here, this user is wrong and you are both fired for not realizing this

dnmc 39 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-]

In response, I expect the open-source community to make an optimal square packing window manager. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Square_packing

GraceParkNYC an hour ago | parent | prev [-]

Mini Cooper redux.

layer8 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Eizo made a square 1920 x 1920 monitor which was quite nice: https://www.eizo.com/products/flexscan/ev2730q/

somat 2 hours ago | parent | next [-]

I had a blackberry passport and it had a lot going for it(best keyboard ever on a phone) but one thing I really liked for reasons I don't understand is it had a square screen and took square photos.

ryukoposting 23 minutes ago | parent | next [-]

Square (or squarish) formats were pretty standard in pro photography once upon a time. Bliss, the Windows wallpaper, was shot on a camera that shoots in 6x7 natively (that's a nominal 6cm x 7cm, really it's more like 55mm x 65mm) A lot of other medium format cameras also shot in 6x7 or 6x6. And of course, 8x10 is still the standard "medium size print." I find square (or squarish) easier to compose with than wide ratios. Street photography, portraits, and sports photography don't often benefit from wider ratios, to name a few examples.

randyrand an hour ago | parent | prev [-]

Square sensors ought to be more common because they maximize the field of view for a given lens. Well, apart from circular sensors.

marssaxman 38 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-]

That looks genuinely useful - I could see positioning a monitor like that on either side of my main monitor, at an angle, and using them for docs, reference material, slack, calendars, etc. All the screen space of a dual-monitor setup, without the separation right in the center! Ah well, shame they're no longer made.

StilesCrisis 29 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-]

This worked great for a home arcade machine. Kind of expensive, but worked equally well for both 4:3 games (Super Mario) and 3:4 games (Pac Man).

zdw an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-]

LG sells a DualUp monitor that is 2560x2880, same size as two 2560x1440 displays stacked on top of each other: https://www.lg.com/us/monitors/lg-28mq780-b-dualup-monitor

layer8 an hour ago | parent [-]

Yep, though what I would want is the width and height swapped. You can rotate the monitor, but then the subpixel layout isn’t good for text.

mgfist 38 minutes ago | parent | prev [-]

Thanks, I hate it

dlcarrier an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Also, real windows and displays should have square corners, too. I refuse to buy a new phone until manufacturers stop cutting corners.

mememememememo 42 minutes ago | parent [-]

Hmm. Android uses the curvy bits for status so the main area is rectangle. So it is OK. It has the advantage of curved corners on casing to reduce chance of cracking screen on a drop.

golem14 36 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Yes, the glass UI is the first step. Well done!

mememememememo an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Well you wont die on that hardened steel cube :)

porphyra 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

> windows should be square

found the Windows 8 enthusiast! haha, I kid. (I myself use a tiling window manager , i3, with completely square windows without any gaps or rounding)

dsr_ 2 hours ago | parent | next [-]

My custom XFWM theme has square corners on windows without focus and large-radius rounded corners on the one window with focus.

The square corners are part of a 2 pixel wide border (one black, one white) because who needs to waste space on handling things we aren't manipulating? But the title bar is high-contrast, because you'll go looking for it when you want to switch windows.

The round corners go with a fairly thick border in a customizable color, usually something very bright in the yellow, orange or cyan ranges. When you sit down, you should immediately know what is active.

doubled112 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Haha, Windows had square windows long before 8.

If I could run the Windows 2000 UI on a modern OS I would but any recent clone/theme/etc feels too uncanny valley.

bee_rider 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I like rounding the corners on i3. It is a bit wasteful but the base WM is so efficient with my pixels that I have some to spare.

paulddraper 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Not having i3 is truly the worst part about Macs.

(Yes, please tell me about some buggy half-compatible tiling window manager for my Mac.)

porphyra 2 hours ago | parent | next [-]

For real. Doesn't help that the three/four finger swipe between full screen windows/workspaces has a mandatory animation that you can't disable (you can turn on "reduce motion", but it simply changes the scrolling animation into an equally time-wasting fading animation).

pastel8739 an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-]

You were being sarcastic, but aerospace is100% worth setting up

bee_rider 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Surely MacOS has some nice virtual machine that you could run Linux in?

porphyra 2 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Virtual machines aren't the solution for day-to-day computing though. You're missing out on the graphics acceleration, being able to plug things in that just work, and so on.

paulddraper an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-]

If you're running your UI on a Linux VM....why not just used Linux?

lostlogin 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

UTM.

anArbitraryOne an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Try exfoliating your wrists with square virtual windows

sublinear 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Nope. Virtual windows are rectangular because the screen is also rectangular while being small enough to see the edges within our field of view.

They don't have to be any particular shape or size. The property of being virtual overrides everything else when free of these self-imposed constraints.

Even if you lose the GUI and go back to text, the ideal terminal is a plane of infinite columns of arbitrary cell size that dynamically fills your field of view.

I'd further argue that the only reason VR/AR isn't more widely adopted is the lack of orthographic vs perspective modality per application (and uncomfortable headsets). In VR/AR, you don't want a window manager or even windows at all. What you want is a field manager (as in FOV "fields" of varying opacity that can be composited by the user). Shape and size is just an arbitrary region blended in with the environment.

For the sake of ergonomics, you'd more often prefer to project an interface onto a surface if you had the choice. When you don't, you probably want the projection to be orthographic, but for the edges to be fuzzy if not invisible. You'd generally want to be able to layer these interfaces as well instead of having opaque rectangles always in your way.

imiric an hour ago | parent [-]

I don't think GP was advocating for actually square windows. Rather that the corners should be right angles.

This makes perfect sense considering that most LCD displays, and practically all computer displays, don't have rounded corners. This trend of rounding displays and GUI elements is purely an aesthetic choice. I also find this obnoxious since the only thing it does is rob me of a few pixels which are often useful.

But considering Apple users have accepted living without a large block of pixels dead center at the top of the screen, which they've been sold as a "feature", the rounded corners are likely even less of an issue.

I'm not sure that an infinite plane of pixels makes sense even in XR. I want to see a clear edge of where digital content begins and ends, and a rectangle is the simplest and most optimal shape for that. So I would rather have physical display-like floating rectangles, than floating text in arbitrary locations, or rounded off corners for the sake of aesthetics. I'm not opposed to a very slight rounding off of edges on certain elements, but the trend Apple is pushing is supremely ridiculous.

sublinear an hour ago | parent [-]

Yeah I don't think we disagree. I just think you all's preference for windows, tiles, etc. (anything rectangular and opaque) is rooted in an idealistic efficiency of pixels (or irrational fear of deception?) just as unergonomic and frustrating to everyone else.

I'm saying that there is room for your arbitrary preference for opaque rectangles if we all abandon the notion of a "screen". We are well past the point where we can do this economically. It only persists because of consumer acceptance. Traditional screens are less efficient in every tangible way. They are less power efficient for their apparent brightness and require more material to construct.

Even the notion of clear boundaries and pixel size is an illusion. Traditional screens only make the pixels so big because they require sufficient brightness and power to see them at that distance, not because we cannot manufacture smaller pixels for cheaper. We could have much better results for everyone and the only remaining cost/problem is finding a way to comfortably wear the display.

jbverschoor 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

The sharp and high edges leave a mark in my skin. The older MacBook Air design was lower, so resting your palms wouldn’t give me this

glitchc 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Did the same for my Macbook Pro 15 unibody circa 2010. It was a great QoL improvement.

abujazar 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Yea, that's ugly. I'm sure it could've been done more gracefully with 15 minutes more effort. But judging from the general wear and tear on this poor Mac I guess they don't even consider the resale value.

kibwen 2 hours ago | parent | next [-]

I can't even imagine prioritizing resale value here over one's own comfort. The purpose of a tool is to be used, not to serve as an asset class.

abujazar 2 hours ago | parent [-]

Sure, but comfort != abuse :D Apart from the filing, I can't think of ways to make such a recent Mac look like this. Did it suffer a plane crash? Acid attack? Thermite fire?

I appreciate the customization, but would probably make an effort to make it not look like (another) accident.

bee_rider 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I think he is not worried about the resale value.

> This was on my work computer. I expect to similarly modify future work computers, and I would be happy to help you modify yours if you need a little encouragement.

I don’t understand the actual decision but I appreciate the gusto with which it was made.

hk1337 2 hours ago | parent [-]

The main reason to consider resale value is 1-2 years later you may want to upgrade and selling it to another person typically yields you more money than trading it in with Apple. Doing something like this may decrease how much you could sell it for later.

If you’re not planning on doing that then it’s not really a factor for you.

windowsrookie 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Seriously, I have several mac laptops dating back to 2004 and they all have less wear than that.

tonypapousek an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Maybe it's because I type like one would play the piano (with hands curved, fingers well below the palms), but I've never ran into an issue like this with a laptop before, wrists always clear the edges by a couple inches.

All the same, hell yeah.

tmd83 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

At one point due to the way I was using my just above my wrist my skin basically calloused from the edge of the macbook. Now at least the lid is not that sharp but it used to be I recall and I always worried about kids getting hit by it in case of an accident.

culi an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I too find the sharp corners incredibly uncomfortable for my weak sensitive baby wrists but I chose to overcome this by wearing a wrist band. Two very different approaches

ribosometronome 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

>it is uncomfortable on my wrists

Are your wrists supposed to be coming into contact with that? I suspect many of us have bad posture and do rest our wrists like that, but if your concern is wrist comfort, you probably want to consider that you're going out of your way to enable harmful posture.

Retr0id 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I'm very tempted to try this although I worry that the rubber "seal" around the edges of the screen will no longer have anything to butt up against, meaning there's glass-on-metal contact when it's closed?

Retr0id an hour ago | parent [-]

Ok I did it, but to a lesser extent to OP, so it definitely doesn't affect the seal. Even a small radius makes a big difference to comfort!

mememememememo an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-]

External keyboard and mouse too easy?

Unless you fly/train travel alot I guess.

octagons 5 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-]

> Don't be scared. Fuck around a bit.

Damn good advice.

phamilton 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I dropped my MBA on concrete and the edges got dinged up and sharp.

A bit of 220 grit sandpaper and all the sharp edges are smooth and it actually looks pretty cool. I was grimacing at first but now I like the feel.

zephen 2 hours ago | parent [-]

Too many MBAs, not enough concrete.

ghshephard an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Another thing that multiple generation of MacBook Airs used to do is constantly be running (sometimes quite painful) amounts of electricity through your wrists if they accidentally touched the metal.

Not sure if the Apple Silicon devices have the same issue - but it was consistent through at least 3 different generations.

LtWorf an hour ago | parent [-]

I remember, at university we had rows of metal chairs and one single person with a macbook could occasionally electrocute multiple people.

j45 14 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Love it, this is the ultimate laptop sticker.

rmccue 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

On one of my old MacBook Pros, I managed to do this naturally through friction from my wrist moving back and forth on the keyboard for years; good idea to get ahead of it.

bredren 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

It’s not just the edge but the corners where the finger accommodation is for opening the lid.

There’s a sharp corner there is unnecessary.

GraceParkNYC an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Sharp edges and an axehead-like profile wear down the bottom of the laptop sleeve in my office-commuter hand luggage. Solved by putting my old MacBook Air in a neoprene pocket case before putting the whole thing, now with the double-thickness :-( p into my sachel.

baud9600 an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Brilliant. Love the tech-disrespect and the “right to repair”!

anArbitraryOne an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-]

If only they'd round the edges/corners of the body instead of the screen and the UI

ed_mercer 28 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Goodbye resale value

proee 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

The Apple Watch Ultra also has an aggressively sharp screen edge. It's kept me from upgrading from my current watch (Model 8). But maybe I would get use to it?

gensym 2 hours ago | parent [-]

The side that faces your wrist is rounded - only the face is sharp. I haven't noticed any issues with the edge wearing the thing.

I was worried about scratches because I abuse the shit out of anything I wear, and sure enough, there are scratches in the titanium bezel, but they look good in a way that scratches on my (non-pro) steel Apple Watch did not.

nickpinkston 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

It was oddly satisfying taking a file to my MacBook when a drop lifted a nasty burr on the edge.

Very minor "you can just do things" collides with the "infallible object" presence that Apple wants for its products - almost feels "wrong", but it's a nice norm to break.

(and I'm not a "Cult of Mac" guy)

jcgrillo an hour ago | parent [-]

you can just do things: https://ebay.us/m/vWMAUU

brudgers an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-]

A file not a milling machine?

Why is this on HN?

sharkjacobs 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I don't want to do the whole front edge but this has definitely inspired me to take a file to these notch corners

smlacy 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Is it me or is that aluminum already developing some stress cracking?

michael1999 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

The sharp points by the track-pad are bad design. Ive made some terrible decisions when he wanted to show off.

thegdsks 14 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Not seriously... I too love the sharp edges but this is scary.. Lol

orliesaurus 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

You don't dock your MacBook for long sesh?

dwg 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Wish I had the courage to do this too.

adastra22 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I just put a plastic case on my MacBook…

maest 32 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I'm now painfully aware of how uncomfortable the edge of my mac is.

BenFranklin100 an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I dealt with sharp edges issue by investing in an Andar leather case. Works just as well.

https://www.andar.com/products/the-helm

sitzkrieg 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

anything but admitting the design is bad and frivolous

jcgrillo an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-]

If instead you sharpen the corners it's a security mechanism.

denimnerd42 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I hate those sharp edges. I've contemplated taking a router with a carbide roundover to mine many times.

andreybaskov 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Finally, now I know I'm not the only one! These sharp edges constantly cut into my wrists to the point I was thinking of doing the same, or glueing some kind of kind soft padding to the edges. Great someone did it. I wonder how far can you cut them?

whalesalad 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I would remove material from the outside edges of the front, not the center near the trackpad. The blue edges of my M2 air have already become silver and the palm rests have become more silver and glossy like glass from wear. I'm probably going to do something like this.

teaearlgraycold 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

This seems like a reasonable choice, but man you really need to do this with a CNC mill. The craftsmanship is not there.

bilalbayram 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I hate this But I also understand Still I hate this

tomjacobs 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

yay

ProAm an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Apple users always convincing themselves they are still using the best premium most thought after designs of all time.

loloquwowndueo 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

> Don't be scared. Fuck around a bit.

Bet this person never heard about FAFO

layer8 2 hours ago | parent [-]

He hasn’t found out yet.

supliminal 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

> Don't be scared. Fuck around a bit.

Preach.

rvz 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

One of the many first world problems of this century. /s

Meanwhile a very important object called "Orion CM-003 Integrity" of the Artemis II mission is about to splash-down on Earth in 35 mins.