| ▲ | onehair 9 hours ago |
| Now this is even more alarming! Wireguard's creator has their Microsoft account suspended... <Tin foil hat on>
Microsoft doesn't want to allow software that would allow the user to shield themselves, either by totally encrypting a drive, or by encrypting their network traffic!
</Tin foil hat on> |
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| ▲ | unicornporn 9 hours ago | parent | next [-] |
| > Microsoft doesn't want to allow software that would allow the user to shield themselves I don't think Microsoft cares (about anything besides making mo' money), but there are plenty of (state) actors that can influence the decision-making at Microsoft when it comes to these issues. No tinfoil needed. |
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| ▲ | vstm 9 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | > No tinfoil needed. That's what Big Tinfoil wants you to believe! | | |
| ▲ | whycome 5 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | I heard it doesn’t even contain tin! | | |
| ▲ | burnt-resistor an hour ago | parent [-] | | Total enshittification with this pure aluminium shit. The hats don't block government UFO mind control waves and hold their shape nearly as well as the tin ones did. Fucking private equity ruins everything. |
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| ▲ | falcor84 8 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | Wait, what?! I was sure that the agenda of Big Tinfoil was to generate FUD so that we buy more tinfoil for our hats. Are you implying their agenda goes even deeper? | | |
| ▲ | kps 6 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | Have you tried to buy tin foil lately? Big Aluminum has taken over, and just see how far you get soldering the grounding strap to an aluminum foil hat. | | | |
| ▲ | shevy-java 8 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | But making money at the expense of people is not a Tinfoil conspiracy - it's a factual statement. | | |
| ▲ | lukan 6 hours ago | parent [-] | | It is also a factual statement, that tinfoil shields (somewhat) from electromagnetic radiation. | | |
| ▲ | balamatom 6 hours ago | parent [-] | | But it is NOT necessarily a factual statement that one of the main uses of electromagnetic radiation is for humans to send information over long distances; nor that I first learned about tinfoil hats from some random piece of information that was being broadcast by means of electromagnetic radiation. It's just a vibe. | | |
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| ▲ | anonym29 8 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | >I don't think Microsoft cares (about anything else than making money), but there are plenty of (state) actors that can influence the decision-making at Microsoft when it comes to these issues. Microsoft the corporation may only care about making money, but a lot of very high ranking folks within MS Security aren't just friendly to intelligence agencies, they take genuine pride in helping intelligence agencies. They're the kinds of people who saw nothing wrong or objectionable with PRISM whatsoever, they were just mad they got caught, and that the end user (who they believe had no right to even know about it) found out anyway. The kind of people who openly defend the legitimacy of the FISA court. This aren't baseless accusations, this comes from first-hand experience interacting with and talking to several of them. Charlie Bell literally kept a CIA mug on a shelf behind him, prominently visible during Teams calls, as if to brag. Remember - Microsoft was the very first company on the NSA's own internal slide deck depicting a timeline of PRISM collection capabilities by platform, started all the way back in 2007. All companies on that slide may have been compelled to assist with national security letters. Some were just more eager than others to betray the privacy and trust of their own customers and end-users. | | |
| ▲ | maxo133 4 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | I can completely believe this. I was always convinced that Skype was bought by microsoft so CIA/US intelligence agencies to have listening capabilities. The first thing Microsoft did after the Skype purchase was making it easier to tap into the calls by removing p2p calling and routing calls using centralized servers. | |
| ▲ | SoftTalker 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | That's my experience with most computer security folks as well, and tech companies who sell security products. Cloak-and-dagger stuff running 24x7 in their heads. | |
| ▲ | dboreham 6 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | It's quite possible TLAs plant employees inside important tech companies. So not only are they sympathetic, they directly work for them. |
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| ▲ | balamatom 6 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | >I don't think Microsoft cares (about anything besides making mo' money) If Microsoft amounts to a sentient entity (i.e. is able to care about things), we have a bigger problem. If we put the wall of metaphor between us and that interpretation, it still remains likely that "users shielding themselves" is of primary concern to Microsoft's bottom line. |
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| ▲ | Macha 6 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Alternatively they asked copilot to scan for crypto projects and ban them |
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| ▲ | riskable 5 hours ago | parent [-] | | You think it would succeed at that? Come on. Copilot is for entertainment purposes only! | | |
| ▲ | bombcar 5 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | Watching Microsoft try to dogfood Copilot is entertaining to me, in a way. | | | |
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| ▲ | ngetchell 9 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Or more likely, some automated security system flagged popular but suspicious apps for further review. |
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| ▲ | antiframe 4 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | If you use an automated process to disable accounts but then state there is no appeals process available as they stated, then you are not to be trusted to be acting in good faith. Bad actors should be called out and not given the benefit of the doubt. | |
| ▲ | Gigachad 7 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | Automated systems breaking things without any human contact to get them resolved seems to be the theme of the last 10 years. | | |
| ▲ | burnt-resistor an hour ago | parent [-] | | This phenomenon is so Orwellian with insufficient awareness, it should both be an SNL skit and a John Oliver episode. It's illiberal, neoliberal, corporate bullshit that causes harm to individuals. These companies need to be treated as utilities and the "companies can do whatever they want" arguments must be debunked and defeated because of the pervasive power they hold and immense harm they can cause to individuals without a remedy when they rug pull access without clear cause. It also reminds me of the case of the entire family who lost all of their payment-linked individual accounts including business data and an academic dissertation because the son allegedly behaved inappropriately with a bot. Collective punishment on top of technofeudal instant banishment. |
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| ▲ | raxxorraxor 8 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | Where are the people that tried to sell us software signatures as security benefit? The reality is that they are a very specific security problem. In theory and in practice. | |
| ▲ | nelox 8 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | Maybe they let Mythos loose and it suggested the safest approach was to remove access ;) |
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| ▲ | varispeed 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| It is more likely that government doesn't want to allow people to have privacy. Microsoft just obediently listen to orders and execute them. |
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| ▲ | blitzar 6 hours ago | parent | prev [-] |
| "Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity" |
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| ▲ | justin_oaks 3 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | When a company makes it impossible to correct their stupidity, it's a malicious act. The behavior speaks loud and clear: "We don't care what damage we do to developers or users. And we don't want to hear about it." | |
| ▲ | tux1968 5 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | I'm more convinced than ever that this aphorism has it completely backwards. | | |
| ▲ | pocksuppet 5 hours ago | parent [-] | | It was probably true at some point, then malicious people learned how to fake stupidity and they outnumber actual stupid people, and they learned how to recruit stupid people to their causes. | | |
| ▲ | xeonmc 4 hours ago | parent [-] | | Never attribute to incompetence that which is adequately explained by profit motives. |
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| ▲ | BoredPositron 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | The guise of a harmless mistake has worn so thin and is so overused by tech companies that I now only see deliberate intent. |
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