| ▲ | tummler 4 hours ago |
| Scientific studies grasping for explanations to spiritual things always give me a smile. This is the way. It’s about opening up to the energetic experience being conveyed through the medium (art, music, whatever). Has nothing to do with individual variations in biology or physiology. |
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| ▲ | LatencyKills 3 hours ago | parent [-] |
| > scientific studies grasping for explanations to spiritual things always give me a smile. There are no "spiritual" things. Everything we experience is based upon biology and chemistry. Where do you think the "chills" come from if not synaptic firing? |
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| ▲ | elemesmedve 3 hours ago | parent [-] | | There are only "spiritual" "things". Where do you think "biology", "chemistry" and "synapses" come from? | | |
| ▲ | LatencyKills 3 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | They are the result of an infinite and ever expanding cosmos; absolutely no magic thinking or beliefs are required. I don't need to pretend that magic exists just because processes are complex. | | |
| ▲ | elemesmedve 2 hours ago | parent [-] | | What I'm getting at is the difference between subjective experience ("chills") and any theory describing it. ("Qualia", "no amount of simulating water will make anything wet", etc.) Although personally I prefer scientific theories to describe reality (they are still the best/most useful), our experience is never "based" on theories. | | |
| ▲ | LatencyKills 2 hours ago | parent [-] | | Well then we agree. I'm just not a fan of using the term "spiritual" for a physical event. No need to ascribe "chills" in a hand-wavy manner. | | |
| ▲ | tummler an hour ago | parent [-] | | Why does the term “spiritual” bother you so much? Perhaps interrogate that. |
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| ▲ | fragmede 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | They were created by magic Gaia energy spirit beings,
obviously. Or God, if that is your desired flavor. Or the beings in control of the simulation we're living in. | | |
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