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elemesmedve 2 hours ago

What I'm getting at is the difference between subjective experience ("chills") and any theory describing it. ("Qualia", "no amount of simulating water will make anything wet", etc.)

Although personally I prefer scientific theories to describe reality (they are still the best/most useful), our experience is never "based" on theories.

LatencyKills 2 hours ago | parent [-]

Well then we agree. I'm just not a fan of using the term "spiritual" for a physical event. No need to ascribe "chills" in a hand-wavy manner.

tummler an hour ago | parent [-]

Why does the term “spiritual” bother you so much? Perhaps interrogate that.