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deaux 6 hours ago

> Actually, you don't have this choice anymore.

I must have taken some shrooms before I downgraded from Tahoe to Sequoia a few hours ago then.

reconnecting 6 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Oh, I must be clear here: I'm not considering M1 Macs or later, since Apple closed the ecosystem with Apple Silicon.

What you did is a downgrade in what's called the supported OS.

However, if you decide to downgrade to Catalina on an M1 Mac, it's not possible — Big Sur is the earliest version that runs on Apple Silicon.

Anyway, you cannot downgrade to a macOS version older than what your Mac originally came with. So if you buy a Mac now, Tahoe will be the minimum option.

stefanfisk 6 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Old Macs can certainly be downgraded. iOS doesn’t allow it though and they pulled the latest security update which fucking sucks. And if you buy a M5, Tahoe is the only OS that’s available.

reconnecting 6 hours ago | parent | next [-]

I have nothing against old Macs and MacOS, but I certainly won't be buying anything since the Apple Silicon switch, because now only Apple controls which OS you can run.

deaux 6 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

>If you buy a machine that isn't even released yet

Uhh, I guess.

AFAIK iOS has been very locked down wrt rolling back upgrades since forever and isn't super relevant to this thread. Happy to be corrected.

klausa 5 hours ago | parent [-]

M5 MacBook Pros have been shipping for over three months now.

The M5 Pro/Max variants aren't; but an M5 Mac is a thing you could have bought for a good while now.