Old Macs can certainly be downgraded. iOS doesn’t allow it though and they pulled the latest security update which fucking sucks. And if you buy a M5, Tahoe is the only OS that’s available.

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reconnecting 7 hours ago | parent | next [-]

I have nothing against old Macs and MacOS, but I certainly won't be buying anything since the Apple Silicon switch, because now only Apple controls which OS you can run.

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deaux 7 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

>If you buy a machine that isn't even released yet

Uhh, I guess.

AFAIK iOS has been very locked down wrt rolling back upgrades since forever and isn't super relevant to this thread. Happy to be corrected.

	▲	klausa 6 hours ago \| parent [-]
		M5 MacBook Pros have been shipping for over three months now. The M5 Pro/Max variants aren't; but an M5 Mac is a thing you could have bought for a good while now.