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deaux 6 hours ago

>If you buy a machine that isn't even released yet

Uhh, I guess.

AFAIK iOS has been very locked down wrt rolling back upgrades since forever and isn't super relevant to this thread. Happy to be corrected.

klausa 5 hours ago | parent [-]

M5 MacBook Pros have been shipping for over three months now.

The M5 Pro/Max variants aren't; but an M5 Mac is a thing you could have bought for a good while now.