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WarmWash 3 hours ago

The Chinese labs distill the SOTA models to boost the performance of theirs. They are a trailer hooked up (with a 3-6 month long chain) to the trucks pushing the technology forwards. I've yet to see a trailer overtake it's truck.

China would need an architectural breakthrough to leap American labs given the huge compute disparity.

miklosz 2 hours ago | parent | next [-]

I have seen indeed a trailer overtake its truck. Not a beautiful view.

digdugdirk an hour ago | parent [-]

Agreed. I do think the metaphor still holds though.

A financial jackknifing of the AI industry seems to be one very plausible outcome as these promises/expectations of the AI companies starts meeting reality.

overfeed an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Care to explain how the volume of AI research papers authored by Chinese researchers[1] has exceeded US-published ones? Time-traveling plagiarism perhaps, since you believe the US is destined to lead always.

1. Chinese researcher in China, to be more specific.

bfeynman an hour ago | parent | next [-]

Not a great metric, research in academia doesn't necessarily translate to value. In the US they've poached so many academics because of how much value they directly translate to.

jacquesm an hour ago | parent | prev [-]

Volume is easy: they have far more people, it is quality that counts.

aaa_aaa 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

No all they need is time. I am awaiting the dowfall of the ai hegemony and hype with popcorn at hand.

mhuffman 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

I would be happy with an openweight 3 month old Claude

cmrdporcupine 2 hours ago | parent [-]

DeepSeek 3.2 is frankly fairly close to that. GLM 4.7 as well. They're basically around Sonnet 4 level.