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cujo 4 hours ago

> I don’t blame people at Fox News for bending the knee and taking that Saudi money

i do, and i judge people who take money to push harmful things. i don't see why this is bad.

dataviz1000 4 hours ago | parent [-]

Because I believe in understanding, forgiveness, and redemption.

I have a responsibility not to lie and kill, as commanded in the Bible. I also have a responsibility to tell people not to lie and kill, as commanded in the Bible.

At the same time, our understanding of the science of the mind, as described by Carol Dweck in "Mindset", is that people are not fixed and can change. That is why understanding, forgiveness, and redemption matter. They are essential for helping other people through the process of repentance -- the changing of a mindset.

komali2 an hour ago | parent | next [-]

Can you not understand, forgive, and believe in redemption, but also judge?

"I understand why you took oil money from the royal family famous for murdering journalists; money is nice to have. However, I judge you for it and will not associate with you until you redeem yourself through seeking forgiveness and changing your behavior."

dataviz1000 31 minutes ago | parent [-]

I was introduced to Maslow's hierarchy of needs 25 years ago around the same time I read about Pavlov's dogs.

The need to belong is extraordinarily motivating. It became obvious that the cults leveraged the need in the individual to belong to a group by accepting the person without judgement first rather than attacking the person they are trying bring into their group pushing them away.

The leaders who understand that are winning.

komali2 19 minutes ago | parent [-]

I get told this a lot by liberals, that it's wrong that I shouted in a cop's face that he's a fascist pig and a traitor to the people, now he'll never support my cause, but I'm not really sure I agree. The cop, and the nazis he's protecting from me, will never join "my group" in ten million years, no matter how nice I am to them. Do you believe otherwise?

amanaplanacanal 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

If they don't repent, does this still work?