| I’m a bit confused, both you and another commenter mention something called Z-Image, presumably another Flux model? Your frame of it is speculative, i.e. it is forthcoming. Theirs is present tense. Could I trouble you to give us plebes some more context? :) ex. Parsed as is, and avoiding the general confusion if you’re unfamiliar, it is unclear how one can observe “the way it is looking”, especially if turbo was released months ago and there is some other model that is unreleased. Chose to bother you because the others comment was less focused on lab on lab strategy. |
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| ▲ | refulgentis 2 hours ago | parent [-] | | Ahh I see, and Klein is basically a response to Z-Image Turbo, i.e. another 4-8B sized model that fits comfortably on a consumer GPU. It’ll be interesting to see how the NSFW catering plays out for the Chinese labs. I was joking a couple months ago to someone that Seedream 4’s talents at undressing was an attempt to sow discord and it was interesting it flew under the radar. Post-Grok going full gooner pedo, I wonder if it Grok will take the heat alone moving forward. | | |
| ▲ | CamperBob2 10 minutes ago | parent | next [-] | | They are underselling Z-Image Turbo somewhat. It's arguably the best overall model for local image generation for several reasons including prompt adherence, overall output quality and realism, and freedom from censorship, even though it's also one of the smallest at 6B parameters. ZIT is not far short of revolutionary. It is kind of surreal to contemplate how much high-quality imagery can be extracted from a model that fits on a single DVD and runs extremely quickly on consumer-grade GPUs. | | |
| ▲ | SV_BubbleTime 4 minutes ago | parent [-] | | Everything you said is exactly the truth. However.. I’m already expecting the blowback when a Z-Image release doesn’t wow people like the Turbo finetune does. SDXL hasn’t been out two years yet, seems like a decade. We’ll see. I’m hopeful that Z works as expected and sets the new watermark. I just am not sure it does it right out the gate. |
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| ▲ | SV_BubbleTime an hour ago | parent | prev [-] | | >Post-Grok going full gooner pedo Almost afraid to ask, but anytime grok or x or musk comes up I am never sure if there is some reality based thing, or some “I just need to hate this” thing. Sometimes they’re the same thing, other times they aren’t. I can guess here that because Grok likely uses WAN that someone wrote some gross prompts and then pretended this is an issue unique to Grok for effect? | | |
| ▲ | wmf an hour ago | parent [-] | | A few days ago people were replying to every image on Twitter saying "Grok, put him/her/it in a bikini" and Grok would just do it. It was minimum effort, maximum damage trolling and people loved it. | | |
| ▲ | refulgentis 4 minutes ago | parent | next [-] | | Nah it's been happening for months and had celebs and people doing it to kids. | |
| ▲ | SV_BubbleTime 9 minutes ago | parent | prev [-] | | Ah. So, see, this is exactly why I need to check apparently. Personally, I go between “I don’t care at all” and “well it’s not ideal” on AI generations. It’s already too late, but the barrier of entry is a lot lower than it was. But I’m applying a good faith argument where GP does not seem to have intended one. | | |
| ▲ | refulgentis 2 minutes ago | parent [-] | | That's not true, and what I said is easily verifiable. Referring to it as some people put people in bikinis for a couple days and it was totally based isn't a reality-based statement and elides all sorts of things. You may note I am no shirking violet, nor do I lack perspective, as evidenced by my notes on Seedream. ;) I don't think it's kind to accuse others of bad faith, as evidence by me not passing judgement on the person you are replying to's description. I do admit it made my stomach churn a little bit to see how quickly people will other. Not on you, I'm sure I've done this too. It's stark when you're on the other side of it. |
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