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CamperBob2 2 hours ago

They are underselling Z-Image Turbo somewhat. It's arguably the best overall model for local image generation for several reasons including prompt adherence, overall output quality and realism, and freedom from censorship, even though it's also one of the smallest at 6B parameters.

ZIT is not far short of revolutionary. It is kind of surreal to contemplate how much high-quality imagery can be extracted from a model that fits on a single DVD and runs extremely quickly on consumer-grade GPUs.

AuryGlenz an hour ago | parent | next [-]

Hold on now. Z-Image Turbo has gotten a lot of hype but it's worse at all of those things other than perhaps looking like it was shot on a cell phone camera than Qwen Image and Flux 2 (the full sized version). Once you get away from photographic portraits of people it quickly shows just how little it can do.

It is, however, small and quick.

CamperBob2 30 minutes ago | parent [-]

Not in my experience. Flux 2 is much larger and heavily censored, and Qwen-Image is just plain not as good. You can fool me into thinking that Z-Image Turbo output isn't AI, while that's rarely the case with Qwen.

Look at the images I posted elsewhere in this section. They are crappy excuses for pogo sticks, but they absolutely do NOT look like they came from a cell phone.

Also see vunderba's page at https://genai-showdown.specr.net/ . Even when Z-Image Turbo fails a test, it still looks great most of the time.

Edit re: your other comment -- don't make the mistake of confusing censorship with lack of training data. Z-Image will try to render whatever you ask for, but at the end of the day it's a very small model that will fail once you start asking for things it simply wasn't trained on. They didn't train it with much NSFW material, so it has some rather... unorthodox anatomical ideas.

SV_BubbleTime 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Everything you said is exactly the truth.

However.. I’m already expecting the blowback when a Z-Image release doesn’t wow people like the Turbo finetune does. SDXL hasn’t been out two years yet, seems like a decade.

We’ll see. I’m hopeful that Z works as expected and sets the new watermark. I just am not sure it does it right out the gate.