| ▲ | bstsb a day ago |
| hey, not accusing you of anything (bad assumptions don't lead to a conducive conversation) but did you use AI to write or assist with this comment? this is totally out of my own self-interest, no problems with its content |
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| ▲ | sho_hn a day ago | parent | next [-] |
| Upon inspection, the author's personal website used em dashes in 2023. I hope this helped with your witch hunt. I'm imagining a sort of Logan's Run-like scifi setup where only people with a documented em dash before November 30, 2022, i.e. D(ash)-day, are left with permission to write. |
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| ▲ | brookst 21 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | Phew. I have published work with em dashes, bulleted lists, “not just X, but Y” phrasing, and the use of “certainly”, all from the 90’s. Feel sorry for the kids, but I got mine. | | | |
| ▲ | mr_toad 21 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | > I'm imagining a sort of Logan's Run-like scifi setup where only people with a documented em dash before November 30, 2022, i.e. D(ash)-day, are left with permission to write. At least Robespierre needed two sentences before condemning a man. Now the mob is lynching people on the basis of a single glyph. | |
| ▲ | ozim 15 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | I started to use — dash so that algos skip my writing thinking they were AI generated. | |
| ▲ | bstsb 12 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | wasn't talking about the em dashes (i use them myself) but thanks anyway :) |
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| ▲ | ekidd a day ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| I have been overusing em dashes and bulleted lists since the actual 80s, I'm sad to say. I spent much of the 90s manually typing "smart" quotes. I have actually been deliberately modifying my long-time writing style and use of punctuation to look less like an LLM. I'm not sure how I feel about this. |
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| ▲ | disillusioned a day ago | parent [-] | | Alt + 0151, baby! Or... however you do it on MacOS. But now, likewise, having to bail on emdashes. My last differentiator is that I always close set the emdash—no spaces on either side, whereas ChatGPT typically opens them (AP Style). | | |
| ▲ | piskov a day ago | parent | next [-] | | Just use some typography layout with a separate layer. Eg “right alt” plus “-” for m-dash Russians use this for at least 15 years https://ilyabirman.ru/typography-layout/ | |
| ▲ | qingcharles 14 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | I'm a savage, I just copy-paste them from Unicode sites. | |
| ▲ | ksherlock 21 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | On the mac you just type — for an em dash or – for an en dash. | | |
| ▲ | xp84 17 hours ago | parent [-] | | Is this a troll? But anyway, it’s option-hyphen for a en-dash and opt-shift-hyphen for the em-dash. I also just stopped using them a couple years ago when the meme about AI using them picked up steam. |
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| ▲ | ajkjk a day ago | parent | prev [-] |
| found the guy who didn't know about em dashes before this year also your question implies a bad assumption even if you disclaim it. if you don't want to imply a bad assumption the way to do that is to not say the words, not disclaim them |
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| ▲ | bstsb 12 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | didn't even notice the em dashes to be honest, i noticed the contrast framing in the second paragraph and the "It's impressive how" for its conclusion. as for the "assumption" bit, yeah fair enough. was just curious of AI usage online, this wasn't meant to be a dig at anyone as i know people use it for translations, cleaning up prose etc | | |
| ▲ | barishnamazov 11 hours ago | parent [-] | | No offense taken, but realize that good number of us folks who have learned English as a second language have been taught in this way (especially in an academic setting). LLMs' writing are like that of people, not the other way around. |
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| ▲ | reactordev a day ago | parent | prev [-] | | The hatred mostly comes from TTS models not properly pausing for them. “NO EM DASHES” is common system prompt behavior. | | |
| ▲ | xp84 17 hours ago | parent [-] | | You know, I didn’t think about that, but you’re right. I have seen so many AI narrations where it reads the dash exactly like a hyphen, actually maybe slightly reducing the inter-word gap. Odd the kinds of “easy” things such as complicated and advanced system gets wrong. |
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