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astronads 9 hours ago

It is interesting how the hallucinations consistently represent tiny people/elves to the mushroom consumer, even across geography/culture.

I wonder what the brain is doing…

nospice 7 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Could be that the mushroom just temporarily interferes with the substances the elves put in our water supply to keep us in the dark?

eykanal 7 hours ago | parent | next [-]

This is some real antimemetics stuff here :) (https://scp-wiki.wikidot.com/antimemetics-division-hub if you're not familiar)

Tempatio 4 hours ago | parent [-]

Yeah the mushrooms are obviously an amnestic that lets you see the elves which are usually antimimetically cloaked.

joe8756438 7 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

exactly, the real question is what the elves are doing while they’re unseen.

ok_dad 7 hours ago | parent | next [-]

They keep the universe running.

amarant 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I can answer the what, that parts easy!

The real question is WHY they keep stealing my underwear and left-foot socks?

johnea 5 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

We should've asked Terence McKenna...

It could be a subspecies of the "machine elves"...

bell-cot 7 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Making toys, caring for reindeer, sleight maintenance, ...

And spook work for His Jolliness' Secret Service, to keep their Naughty and Nice databases current.

egypturnash 7 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

s/elves/government

pea 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I think it makes sense given the following:

- Your brain has been trained extensively to recognize faces / people. Even very small babies can do this.

- Your brain processes a large amount of mostly noise, and sometimes mislabels noise as objects, which trends towards face-like things (see: seeing faces in clouds, people in shadows etc.) Various classes of substances make this effect more noticeable (even stimulants, including caffeine)

- The jump from that to 'elves' is largely just cultures have some form of small magical person.

treetalker 7 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Would be interesting if the chemical mechanism is related or similar to the DMT one that creates the "machine elves" experience.

astronads 7 hours ago | parent [-]

Yeah, the machine elves rabbit hole is interesting for sure. I hope a lot more rigorous science delves into both mushrooms and DMT

andy_ppp 3 hours ago | parent [-]

Someone has to support consciousness and reality I guess, thanks to the elves I say…

akka47 6 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Since we're in the topic of elves and common hallucinations, I want to share these Salvia trip replicas that some say are extremely accurate:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z2IRKuS3sSE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=65XfIpJdlEY

ceroxylon 6 hours ago | parent | next [-]

It gets the visuals accurate, but the experience includes a lot of physical sensation that is very difficult to convey, e.g. the 'wind' that pushes you back and the discomfort of going into a chaotic dissociated state. You see those things but it feels very 'real'.

OldSchool 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Wow, looks terrifying!

I can only speak for medically-administered intravenous Ketamine, but I would describe it as like relatively effortlessly floating inside of the non-physical space inside of you and meeting yourself in metaphor, all the while completely aware. The biggest risk seemed to be temporarily becoming a relatively inanimate part of the infrastructure there, and even that was a sort of pleasant and satisfying state.

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tokai 7 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Lilliputian hallucinations are also common in mental illnesses with hallucinations. Definitely some kind of physical foundation for it in the human brain.

adzm 6 hours ago | parent [-]

I imagine it is something similar to pareidolia.

newman8r 6 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

reminds me of trip reports from people trying Salvia Divinorum - there's even a name for these tiny people, 'Smelves'

bilsbie 7 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Occam’s razor would say they’re real.

flir 7 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

These mushrooms are small, these elves are far away.

seg_lol 6 hours ago | parent [-]

You will get a kick out of https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MVUuoXAkuUg a Corridor Crew video on in-camera forced perspective effects.