I would also recommend Benn Jordan's YT channel, he has a couple of videos covering flock cameras. His latest one is: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uB0gr7Fh6lY

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I think it's mostly just a privacy issue. The idea that your every movement is being recorded by the government is Orwellian, especially when they try to hide its existence, lie about its capabilities, and you have no say in the matter (referencing NSA metadata monitoring). The average person thinks their ring camera is like their coffee maker, an individual piece of technology they own and control. If it were released that everyone's ring cameras were being fed into some NSA program running facial recognition to track citizens movement I'm sure they would be upset about that too.

It’s trivial for law enforcement to track your movement with ALPR cameras. Information feeds into a single database, paid for by law enforcement agencies, and they just connect the dots.

Ring camera footage requires law enforcement to get a warrant or for individuals to give consent to supply the footage.

Now tell me which system makes it easier for a cop to stalk their ex.

What's your point? To the extent they're a private company you're even less likely to get access to records from Flock ALPR cameras.

The camera could be separate from the billboard, and point at the backs of the cars. The billboard would be a short distance past that.

Flock cameras are oriented to read rear plates. One would need a camera similarly configured + a billboard some distance in front, or perhaps 2 billboards, a 1-2 setup + payoff combo, the camera behind the first billboard, and the dynamic text on the second. Pulling up other public data correlated to the plate - where legal - may make a splash. I'm thinking addressing the car owner by their first name.

No, Workers free tier is 100,000 requests/day. Considering the error is on the main page, each visit is probably taking a minimum of 10+ requests, so it can easily be overwhelmed.

Have I been cloudflare'd?

Yup.

Nowadays, we say “hugged to death.”

fixed

Okay? so what. People can see that I drive? do you not think that verizon/ att /google cant see where you traveling by the phone you carry?

Oh no lots people can now see that I go to costco and publix.

It's not one or the other. Everyone should be opposed to both.

That is oft-repeated, but case law is starting to show it's not strictly true:

See Mosaic + Carpenter case which say “Yes, each scan is public; yes, aggregation is different. "

Carpenter shows the Court recognizes that aggregated location data can be constitutionally significant.

Individual observability vs. systemic observation: A passerby can note a single plate at a single place/time. But a system of ALPRs, distributed spatially and continuous in time, indexed and retained, can map a person’s entire movements, associations, repeated visits, and behavioral patterns. That’s exactly the “mosaic” insight: the whole reveals things the pieces don’t. (Maynard / Jones reasoning).

But don’t I have a right to not get stalked?

clarity is good. i believe that was a reference to the futility of posting "i do not consent" messages on social media.

> With no other identifying info, though, what can they do with a license plate number in isolation?

For typical users not taking extra precautions, visiting a page in a browser is providing additional identifying info, a fact that monetization of the free-as-in-beer web relies heavily upon, but which can be leveraged in other ways, e.g., by a site that draws you in with privacy fears as a technique to get you to submit additional information that can be correlated with it.

In many states, car registration data is public information. If you have a license plate number, you can easily look up who the car is registered to, where they live, etc. License plate numbers are PII.

You just work backwards.

Here's what I would do working off just a single license plate number w OSINT.

I would pivot immediately into license plate databases that have been breached. For example, ParkMobile got popped in 2021 and the db has 20.9M license plates in it. prob have low success rate and iirc its pretty US centric. It has their full name, address, phone, email, all kinda data.

If you had paid fancy tools, like Lexis Nexis, you could plug it into there and easily find the owner.

There are also plenty of license plate look sites online where it will tell you the VIN and make/model details.

Idk, would just take digging and keep spidering out with all new info you find. Would yield a few hits eventually.

Some states, like Michigan, you can request owner information (including address) by a in-person SOS visit and $15 a plate. I've always thought this should be PII and shouldn't be allowed on reddit, for example, where PII is banned. Post a driver with plate in Michigan and you may have doxxed them.

Most people park at their home and many drive to work. If you have both of those data points, you can identify people.

Exactly - you can collect license plates numbers way easier than this. The best data they can really get is a connection to an IP address.

Checksum?

Sell it to the cops and/or ICE as belonging to "self-identified persons of interest."

100% always feels like a trap.

Why would they break into individual hardware when they have unfettered access to the whole system in certain countries’ cases and can likely just hack into it in more adversarial cases? It is one of the several reasons why … yes, I know YC backed and funded Flock … the company and everyone in government that contracts for them to provide this mass surveillance service, is objectively and inherently treasonous. But don’t shoot the messenger just because people don’t like the message.

“Whoopsie, my negligence I shouldn’t have been engaging in in the first place” is no exemption from being a traitor, betrayal.

What that means for society and if and what it does about it is a different question. Based on historical trends, it all probably won’t matter since we’ve clearly crossed a threshold and the “PPP” tyranny (different from the trillion dollars in PPP loans that were forgiven and contributed to the inflation) is upon us because it wasn’t prevented when it still could have been.

I don’t think people here are even tracking what is going on in TX, UT, LA (and soon to be nation wide); where as of Jan 1st all new accounts will have to provide government ID to install any app on a mobile device.