> There are bunch of things that are only manufactured in Germany. You don’t hear those companies that much because they are not public but they are well known by the people who work in specific industries.

There is small town of 35,000 inhabitants around the corner from where I live. It produces 50% of the world's surgical equipment, from a base of around 600 companies.

There are good reasons why "made in Germany" is not as dead as some people want us to believe.

certain people want the rest of the world to become like china and india, top down sweatshops so they can squeeze just a little more dollar out of people

I know many of these companies and I have even been invited to some of them.

I am not some American desperate to insult Europeans. I am a German, I work in the German industry, my livelihood depends on this economy.

>When you combine them, they are way bigger than the German companies you hear everyday which are laying off people or closing factories.

This plainly is not true. Even the "small champions" are struggling, because they are mostly suppliers to the large companies. A very significant part of the "Mittelstand" exists as specialized suppliers to the German car, Aerospace and Railway companies. If those are struggling, then the suppliers feel the pain just as much.

GDP is a leading indicator. You can't fund European-style transit and social services forever if there's less money coming in.

Even those companies are struggling nowadays with quality of goods made in China improving extremely fast.

> For some reason, every time Europe is mentioned, there is always a comment about how Europe is struggling but when you look at the quality of life, happiness or life expectancy, all those numbers are higher than the US.

But quality of life in Europe is decreasing fast. Pension is becoming unsustainable. Govts are going bankrupt. Infrastructure is collapsing. People correctly see that Europe as a whole will fall behind in some years unless things change

>They were doomed regardless of where they were based.

This was not inevitable. You even mentioned the reason it happened.

Cherry isn't a one of here. This exact same story, successful product -> limited innovation -> bad clones from China -> superior "clones" from Chinese with actual innovations, keeps repeating itself in Germany.

Germany is objectively not a good environment for manufacturing. Especially when it comes to manufacturing anything cost sensitive, but these companies obviously have themselves to blame. The PC Hardware market has drastically evolved and if Cheery had actually wanted to, they could have been at the forefront of that. But they haven't.

I think it’s mostly the loss of Nord Stream

Yeah well there are now plenty of Chinese designed products with quality as good or better than what you get in Europe: roborock, dji, bambu labs. The old Chinese = bad quality is no longer true.

One thing that the Chinese are really good at is cost innovation, reducing costs as many ways possible to make their products affordable for the majority. Their aim for good enough quality.

I bet the sales ratio of the Chinese vs the German sharpeners exceed 20:1

> It needs to be stopped.

forcing germans to buy everything at 10 times of what it costs now is not the way to rescue the country

>Their people are still transitioning from agrarian hardship to urban factory life, and there seems to be a zeal that comes with this transition, a willingness to work hard for what here today would be considered little.

You don't find hordes of Chinese peasants in their dark factories.

Do you think that JLCPCB offer such prices because they have 2000000 lowly paid machinists drilling the pcb holes manually? China invests in all kinds of automation like crazy