How many people consider what a bathroom looks like before booking a hotel room? I can't say I've ever done so.

▲ gpm 12 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Actively? Almost no one.

But I absolutely check out google maps reviews, and a single review saying that the hotel did not have a proper door on the bathroom would guarantee I would not stay there.

Even traveling alone it's a clear indication they have no respect for their guests, and it's a significant hygiene issue.

▲ conductr 11 hours ago | parent | next [-]

> Even traveling alone it's a clear indication they have no respect for their guests, and it's a significant hygiene issue.

I feel like if you consider lack of a door a significant hygiene issue, you probably just shouldn’t be staying in hotels. These rooms aren’t being sanitized between guests, they are pretty dirty.

	▲	autoexec 10 hours ago \| parent \| next [-]
		All the more reason not to add mold from the shower and excess feces from every toilet flush to the list of things I have to worry about being on the mattress. There are good reasons to keep bathrooms physically separated from where you sleep and hygiene is one of them, along with not wanting the bed to be a front row seat to the sights, smells, and sounds of whatever is going on in there and not wanting an expensive hotel room I'm paying for to be like a prison cell.
	▲	gpm 10 hours ago \| parent \| prev [-]
		Don't let perfect be the enemy of good and all that, just because things aren't perfect isn't a good reason for the hotel to make things worse and doesn't mean I shouldn't avoid worse hotels on the basis that they are worse.

▲ eru 12 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

> [...] it's a significant hygiene issue.

How so?

▲ cwillu 11 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Shit particles are literally blown into the surrounding air when flushing; closing the door and running the fan contains the mess.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toilet_plume

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rendaw 8 hours ago | parent | next [-]

It feels like that wikipedia article was written by a motivated individual and hasn't received significant review...

> viruses & bacteria many of which are known to survive on surfaces for days

> Toilets are scientifically proven

> There is 70 plus years

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eru 11 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Have you considered closing the toilet lid?

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lukeschlather 11 hours ago | parent | next [-]

There was a study which showed closing the lid reduces the acute problem but actually increases dwell time.

https://www.researchgate.net/publication/339650907_Real-time...

	▲	neutronicus 11 hours ago \| parent \| next [-]
		The larger conclusion is that the health consequences of this alleged horror seem to be, in fact, fuck-all
	▲	eru 10 hours ago \| parent \| prev [-]
		Well, as long as the closed toilet bowl has time in between to settle, it's all fine. And your hotel toilet isn't exactly a high traffic area.

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gpm 10 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Generally you would need everyone else to do that for it to help you, which isn't something you control.

Doors are nice from the public health perspective in that people actually do usually close them without even being asked.

▲ lawlessone 11 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

who wants to sleep in a room full of shower steam?

▲ Nextgrid 10 hours ago | parent | next [-]

If there is adequate ventilation in the bathroom, most of the steam/moisture will go there. If there isn't, a door won't save you much, since as soon as you open it all the built-up steam is going to escape in the room anyway. Air conditioning generally takes care of it if it does happen though.

▲ autoexec 10 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

The extra humidity is bound to add to mold issues too. It's not a huge issue when it's largely contained to the bathroom where you can wipe stuff down, but mold in mattresses, upholstered furniture, curtains, and carpet make filling the entire hotel room with steam every day (if not multiple times a day) a very bad idea.

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eru 10 hours ago | parent [-]

Open the window or run the aircon?

	▲	mitthrowaway2 9 hours ago \| parent \| next [-]
		Good idea, I'll make sure the previous guests all do that.
	▲	ars 9 hours ago \| parent \| prev [-]
		It's been a very long time since I've stayed in a hotel room with a window that actually opened.

▲ eru 10 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

That's a comfort issue. Comfort is important, but it's distinct from hygiene.

▲ godelski 10 hours ago | parent | next [-]

  > it's distinct from hygiene.

Mold

Not to mention that any bacteria thrives in more humid environments. They aren't so good at keeping moist. This is true for a lot of things, especially the smaller the thing is, including bugs. Higher humidity definitely makes good hygiene more difficult.

Why do you think bathrooms have fans? That'd be a lot of effort to deal with farts.

▲ eru 10 hours ago | parent [-]

Open the window or run the aircon.

▲ godelski 8 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Considering this and your other comments I really think you need to think a bit deeper about your answers. I believe in you, just ask "and then what happens" and I'm positive you'll figure it out.

▲ eru 7 hours ago | parent [-]

I've both opened windows and ran aircons. (Though I try to avoid doing both at the same time.)

Nothing bad happened.

▲ godelski 5 hours ago | parent [-]

  > Nothing bad happened.

Keep at it, you're almost there. You just forgot about one important variable: time

	▲	eru 3 hours ago \| parent [-]
		If done both for a long time over many years.

▲ gpm 9 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

This is a hotel room, you would need the last hundred guests to have done that, not yourself

▲ kijin 10 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

If the increased humidity promotes mold growth, then yes, it's a hygiene issue.

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eru 10 hours ago | parent [-]

Yes. Though trapping humidity in the bathroom doesn't make it go away, and you have to open the door to get in and out of the bathroom, and that lets the humidity escape.

	▲	mitthrowaway2 9 hours ago \| parent [-]
		The hotel will typically have an extractor running in the bathroom, wired to the light switch.

▲ RoyTyrell 12 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Until recently, you never had to think about it. But as it becomes more common it will become something you might want to consider.

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mumber_typhoon 12 hours ago | parent | next [-]

And until then they will milk as much money as possible. If there is outrage or they see sales dropping, a few thousand dollars per hotel will replace those rooms with doors leaving with net profit and steady shareholder growth. Some statistical analysis ppt made by some mid level MBA must have proposed this and got a promotion.

	▲	autoexec 10 hours ago \| parent \| next [-]
		This is why it falls on us to not simply put up with what little they expect us to settle for. Ask about their privacy and bathroom doors when booking and if caught by surprise by a lack of an actual door or inadequate privacy demand a new room, or go elsewhere taking a refund if necessary. I have to admit that I'm getting very tired of the unsustainable push for endless growth driving companies everywhere to jack up prices as high as people will tolerate and then also delivering the least and worst product/service they can possibly get away with on top of it. It means that everything is getting shittier unless you're willing to spend insane amounts of money to get what used to be standard and more affordable. It's becoming exhausting maintaining a list of businesses I no longer want to give money to and products/services I won't pay for. This is especially true as companies change names, redesign products, and buy up one another. the list just grows and grows all the time.
	▲	eru 12 hours ago \| parent \| prev [-]
		> Some statistical analysis ppt made by some mid level MBA must have proposed this and got a promotion. Not necessarily. Just like natural evolution doesn't requite its participants to understand themselves, neither does the market require anyone at a business to understand why they are successful.

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thaumasiotes 12 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

> Until recently, you never had to think about it. But as it becomes more common it will become something you might want to consider.

This is closely related to a phenomenon I don't understand.

Pretty much every proposed regulatory change (for example: letting drivers pump their own gas at gas stations) meets a fierce counterargument that says "currently, no one considers this situation at all because only one state of affairs is legal. If that thoughtlessness continues after we legalize other possibilities, TERRIBLE THINGS COULD HAPPEN!".

But obviously this protasis† can never occur and so it doesn't matter what's in the apodosis.

† https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/protasis#English (2)

▲ sbarre 12 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I definitely do not return to a hotel where the bathroom was sub-par...

And likewise I absolutely return to a hotel where the bathroom was good when going back to a city.

I'm mostly talking about the water pressure for the shower here, but you get the idea.

▲ zapzupnz 11 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I want a hot bath after a long day. I don't have one at home so you best believe I'm having one when I'm travelling.

▲ rdtsc 11 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

It could discourage repeat customers?

There is a website dedicated to it. It would take someone posting that to a few social media accounts and for hotel search sites to put "has an almost see through glass bathroom door" result category, and I think it could turn from a sneaky money maker into a reason people avoid the place.

▲ neutronicus 11 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

My wife is keenly interested in whether or not there is a bathtub. Keenly.

	▲	devilbunny 10 hours ago \| parent [-]
		Mine is as well. So far the only way I have found to locate such increasingly-rare rooms is booking.com followed by calling the hotel. For all their sins, Booking at least lets you search for hotels that have bathtubs in any rooms at all. Aside from rinsing off after a pool or ocean swim, or when she is actually dirty (e.g., after yard work), I think I have known her to voluntarily take three or four showers in 25 years together.

▲ chatmasta 12 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Really? It's one of my main discriminators. The quality of the bathroom is the highest signal indicator of the quality of the hotel. I look for a stone shower basin, a rainhead, a bath tub, or at a least glass shower door... if it looks bolted onto a plastic box, I'm not staying there.

If they're cheaping out on the shower then I'm not going to trust the mattress is clean or the linens are soft.

▲ ajsnigrutin 8 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

You don't, because you expect there to be a toilet, a sink, a shower, towels, a mirror etc. there. There's nothing to consider, it's just expected to be there. Same for the bathroom door.

But if i got burned once or twice by a room without a bathroom door, i'd start checking that too and avoiding places that don't have them.

▲ jen20 10 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

I do. Most of my travel is alone for work so I don’t care about a door, but I always call ahead and refuse to book hotels with shower curtains.