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gpm 12 hours ago

Actively? Almost no one.

But I absolutely check out google maps reviews, and a single review saying that the hotel did not have a proper door on the bathroom would guarantee I would not stay there.

Even traveling alone it's a clear indication they have no respect for their guests, and it's a significant hygiene issue.

conductr 11 hours ago | parent | next [-]

> Even traveling alone it's a clear indication they have no respect for their guests, and it's a significant hygiene issue.

I feel like if you consider lack of a door a significant hygiene issue, you probably just shouldn’t be staying in hotels. These rooms aren’t being sanitized between guests, they are pretty dirty.

autoexec 10 hours ago | parent | next [-]

All the more reason not to add mold from the shower and excess feces from every toilet flush to the list of things I have to worry about being on the mattress.

There are good reasons to keep bathrooms physically separated from where you sleep and hygiene is one of them, along with not wanting the bed to be a front row seat to the sights, smells, and sounds of whatever is going on in there and not wanting an expensive hotel room I'm paying for to be like a prison cell.

gpm 10 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Don't let perfect be the enemy of good and all that, just because things aren't perfect isn't a good reason for the hotel to make things worse and doesn't mean I shouldn't avoid worse hotels on the basis that they are worse.

eru 12 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

> [...] it's a significant hygiene issue.

How so?

cwillu 11 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Shit particles are literally blown into the surrounding air when flushing; closing the door and running the fan contains the mess.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toilet_plume

rendaw 8 hours ago | parent | next [-]

It feels like that wikipedia article was written by a motivated individual and hasn't received significant review...

> viruses & bacteria many of which are known to survive on surfaces for days

> Toilets are scientifically proven

> There is 70 plus years

eru 11 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Have you considered closing the toilet lid?

lukeschlather 11 hours ago | parent | next [-]

There was a study which showed closing the lid reduces the acute problem but actually increases dwell time.

https://www.researchgate.net/publication/339650907_Real-time...

neutronicus 11 hours ago | parent | next [-]

The larger conclusion is that the health consequences of this alleged horror seem to be, in fact, fuck-all

eru 10 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Well, as long as the closed toilet bowl has time in between to settle, it's all fine. And your hotel toilet isn't exactly a high traffic area.

gpm 10 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Generally you would need everyone else to do that for it to help you, which isn't something you control.

Doors are nice from the public health perspective in that people actually do usually close them without even being asked.

lawlessone 11 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

who wants to sleep in a room full of shower steam?

Nextgrid 10 hours ago | parent | next [-]

If there is adequate ventilation in the bathroom, most of the steam/moisture will go there. If there isn't, a door won't save you much, since as soon as you open it all the built-up steam is going to escape in the room anyway. Air conditioning generally takes care of it if it does happen though.

autoexec 10 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

The extra humidity is bound to add to mold issues too. It's not a huge issue when it's largely contained to the bathroom where you can wipe stuff down, but mold in mattresses, upholstered furniture, curtains, and carpet make filling the entire hotel room with steam every day (if not multiple times a day) a very bad idea.

eru 10 hours ago | parent [-]

Open the window or run the aircon?

mitthrowaway2 9 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Good idea, I'll make sure the previous guests all do that.

ars 9 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

It's been a very long time since I've stayed in a hotel room with a window that actually opened.

eru 10 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

That's a comfort issue. Comfort is important, but it's distinct from hygiene.

godelski 10 hours ago | parent | next [-]

  > it's distinct from hygiene.
Mold

Not to mention that any bacteria thrives in more humid environments. They aren't so good at keeping moist. This is true for a lot of things, especially the smaller the thing is, including bugs. Higher humidity definitely makes good hygiene more difficult.

Why do you think bathrooms have fans? That'd be a lot of effort to deal with farts.

eru 10 hours ago | parent [-]

Open the window or run the aircon.

godelski 8 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Considering this and your other comments I really think you need to think a bit deeper about your answers. I believe in you, just ask "and then what happens" and I'm positive you'll figure it out.

eru 7 hours ago | parent [-]

I've both opened windows and ran aircons. (Though I try to avoid doing both at the same time.)

Nothing bad happened.

godelski 5 hours ago | parent [-]

  > Nothing bad happened.
Keep at it, you're almost there. You just forgot about one important variable: time
eru 3 hours ago | parent [-]

If done both for a long time over many years.

gpm 9 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

This is a hotel room, you would need the last hundred guests to have done that, not yourself

kijin 10 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

If the increased humidity promotes mold growth, then yes, it's a hygiene issue.

eru 10 hours ago | parent [-]

Yes. Though trapping humidity in the bathroom doesn't make it go away, and you have to open the door to get in and out of the bathroom, and that lets the humidity escape.

mitthrowaway2 9 hours ago | parent [-]

The hotel will typically have an extractor running in the bathroom, wired to the light switch.