Posting a quick TL;DW. A minute into the video Chuck Moore says that Windows updates (on 11 and 10) have caused colorForth to crash, with Chuck thinking it's a graphical problem. I may comment more, but I wanted to post this because I don't see it mentioned as a youtube comment.

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JSR_FDED an hour ago | parent | next [-]

I have yet to read one single story where people are actually happy with Windows 11.

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bitwize 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Did Microsoft seriously deprecate BitBlt and 2D draw calls?

If so, it seems as if Windows is undergoing a Waylandization. "Yeah, we went ahead and removed those because they're legacy. Modern rendering pipelines don't work that way anymore." I don't WANT a rendering pipeline! I want a surface, and to make calls to scribble on it! That's it!

	▲	mwcampbell 3 hours ago \| parent \| next [-]
		> Did Microsoft seriously deprecate BitBlt and 2D draw calls? Very unlikely. Far too many applications depend on those things. It's more likely that they accidentally changed something subtle that happened to break colorForth.
	▲	eternityforest 3 hours ago \| parent \| prev [-]
		I'm guessing a lot of the legacy stuff that still uses it also depends on some other things they wanted to change too?

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remexre 5 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I wonder how well Proton would work for it...

	▲	jz_ 5 hours ago \| parent [-]
		It looks like colorForth runs in qemu or bochs according to documentation, so Proton/wine wouldn't be required.

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aaron_m04 5 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

I could've sworn I saw something in the last month or two about BITBLT or DirectX changes on Windows.

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bitwize 4 hours ago | parent | next [-]

It wouldn't surprise me to find that Windows is now flagging and quarantining unsigned, unfamiliar executables that it catches making these draw calls or really any direct Win32 calls. Microsoft, and in particular Windows Defender which you can't really turn off anymore, has gotten pretty aggressive about blocking software for "security purposes".

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actionfromafar 3 hours ago | parent [-]

Are we going from "the only stable ABI on Linux is Wine", to "the only stable ABI is Wine"?

(Especially now that .NET Framework was donated to Wine...)

	▲	Figs an hour ago \| parent \| next [-]
		> Especially now that .NET Framework was donated to Wine... Do you mean Mono, or did I miss something?
	▲	butvacuum an hour ago \| parent \| prev [-]
		Mono. Not .net fw.

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chris_wot 4 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

If there is, does anyone have any info on this?