Or give you results that are completely unrelated and even try to convince you that what you’re trying to search doesn’t exist.

Studied with a guy from old Soviet Union, they were educated in a way that every modern invention had a Soviet inventor.

ChatGPT can create an individualized reality and truth for everyone depending on which advertiser’s target demographic they fit in.

Wait long enough and it seems like almost any company tries anything to increase its bottom line, but the main difference between ChatGPT and Google is at least ChatGPT attempts to give a paid option. Again, I don't think that'll stop them from ever getting to that point... but it'll go farther than "here's search, we pay for it via adtech".

Kagi is a similar boat - the product is what you pay for, not what they can get users to put up with.

It’s funny, in the late 90s and early 00s, respectable companies had no ads on their websites.

Now it seems like they all do!

maybe, but there was a time when google was the best alternative too.

I'd say it's practically guaranteed. It would be wildly unprecedented to not follow up the amount of hype and fundraising in the LLM AI industry without a massive amount of enshittification following it.

Even if improvements continue for years we might already be near the peak of LLM usefulness because all of greedy and abusive dark patterns are sure to follow once the manic land grab settles down.

> OpenAI has even more VC money to pay back than Google ever did.

Sure, so move them off OpenAI, once they start paying back?

Just imagine all the gigawatts cooked to just serve ads via LLMs

1. The reason why ChatGPT is free despite being honestly very advanced, is that they want the general public to have an association of ChatGPT being "the default AI", just like Google is the default search engine and YouTube is the default video platform. Once they have this position they can throw as much garbage at the users as they want and nobody will care. This is why it doesn't really matter how much it costs now to capture the market, if the potential benefits are huge.

2. Once the market is captured and solidified, ads and enshittification ensue. If you're willing to put on your tin foil hat for a second, I'd tell you that as a matter of fact the technologies to integrate different services with ChatGPT are being developed right now, and once they're ready it's just a small step to make sure that ChatGPT prioritizes answers mentioning those integrated partners, which can easily be justified to users as legit quality-of-life improvements.

Maybe the answer is indeed to just buy a book and go touch some literal grass, and let the civilization drown in the sewer of disinformation it produces.

> At this point, we have to be actively be against free services.

Nah, GCC is free, Linux is free, Debian is free. What we need to be against is free stuff provided by for-profit entities, because the love of money is the root of all evil.

Yeah agree 100% - this is why I’m a happy kagi customer

It’s kind of cool being treated like a customer

New feature releases aren’t about ad placement or SEO or personalization / tracking

Instead, their product updates are targeted at me - cool nifty features that I can immediately try out

Like kagi or not, just the feeling of having devs care about my actual personal experience is a breath of fresh air

I know not everyone is an fortunate, but I’d happily spend on other software of this caliber

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I gotchu fam: https://tincan.kids/

It’s a phone, it’s a network, it has no robocalls!

I know, I know.

Dude not to mention their ai assistant is top notch

Happy customer here as well

A lot of people want to complain but don't want to pay (not saying that is OP, just generally)

Maybe that’s business opportunity for some to create and manage trusted personal portals for family members.