| ▲ | lacy_tinpot 6 days ago |
| Not necessarily true. This might be a Microsoft funding a bankrupt Apple kind of moment. American competition isn't a zero sum, and it's in Nvidias' best interest to keep the market healthy. |
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| ▲ | rapind 6 days ago | parent | next [-] |
| > American competition isn't a zero sum, and it's in Nvidias' best interest to keep the market healthy. Looking at Google's recent antitrust settlement, I'm not sure this is true at present. |
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| ▲ | tonyhart7 6 days ago | parent | next [-] | | Google literally "won" antitrust case ??? the fact that google pay firefox anually meaning that its in best interest of google that there is no monopoly, judge says | |
| ▲ | lacy_tinpot 6 days ago | parent | prev [-] | | Nvidia's options are fund your competition to keep the market dynamic, or let the government do it by breaking you a part. So yes. That's how American competition works. It isn't a zero sum game. We try to create a market environment that is competitive and dynamic. Monopolies are threat to both the company and a free open dynamic market. If Nvidia feels it could face an antitrust suit, which is reasonable, it is in its best interest to fund the future of Intel. That's American capitalism. | | |
| ▲ | NooneAtAll3 6 days ago | parent | next [-] | | > or let the government do it by breaking you a part. Looking at Google's recent antitrust settlement, I'm not sure this is true at present. | | |
| ▲ | prasadjoglekar 6 days ago | parent | next [-] | | There are at least 2 more anti trust suits against Google on going. One is about to enter the remedies phase in Virginia. | |
| ▲ | lacy_tinpot 6 days ago | parent | prev [-] | | Because the recent settlement determined, in my opinion correctly, that the market is still dynamic and competitive. Google search is genuinely being threatened. Google is not a monopoly, not entirely. If AI usage also starts accruing to Google then there should be a new antitrust suit. |
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| ▲ | mcintyre1994 6 days ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | I can’t imagine Nvidia has any concerns about that with the current administration. | | |
| ▲ | account42 6 days ago | parent | next [-] | | We have at least seen anti-trust suits proceed against Google under the current (US) administration. The same cannot be said for the previous one. | | |
| ▲ | mcintyre1994 6 days ago | parent [-] | | Are you referring to the case that started in 2023 under the previous administration? |
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| ▲ | pedroma 6 days ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | Will Nvidia continue to exist beyond the current administration? If yes, then would it be prudent to consider the future beyond the current administration? | |
| ▲ | at-fates-hands 6 days ago | parent | prev [-] | | But it did when Biden was in office? |
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| ▲ | siva7 6 days ago | parent | prev [-] | | Which government? This one? |
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| ▲ | rasz 6 days ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Microsoft wasnt funding bankrupt Apple, Microsoft was settling lawsuit with Jobs just on the cusp of DOJ monopoly lwasuit. Microsoft was stealing and shipping Apple QuickTime sourcecode. https://www.theregister.com/1998/10/29/microsoft_paid_apple_... > handwritten note by Fred Anderson, Apple's CFO, in which Anderson wrote that "the [QuickTime] patent dispute was resolved with cross-licence and significant payment to Apple." The payment was $150 million |
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| ▲ | villgax 6 days ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| You might want to re-read about that Apple-Microsoft incident. Quicktime got stolen by an ex-Apple employee & in return Apple had Microsoft commit money & promise to have Office suite available on macOS/OS X |
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| ▲ | aDyslecticCrow 6 days ago | parent | prev [-] |
| One interesting parallel is Intel and AMD back in x86 1991, which is today the reason AMD is at all allowed to produce x86 without massive patent royalties to intel. [Asianometry](https://youtu.be/5oOk_KXbw6c) had a nice summery of it. Nvidia is leaning more into data centres, but lack a CPU architecture or expertise. Intel is struggling financially, but have knowledge in iGPUs and a vast amount of patents. They could have alot to give one another, and it's a massive win if it keeps intel afloat. |
