In retrospect, I think you are far better off forking Quake rather than messing with these kinds of 2010 projects which attempt to solve all problems, and do none of them very well.

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jsheard 2 days ago | parent [-]

The problem with forking IdTech is that it's GPL, which is a problem if you ever want to release your game on consoles. The vast majority of new Quake-inspired boomer shooters take the pragmatic approach and just use Unity or Unreal instead.

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indrora a day ago | parent | next [-]

Saleco is doing just fine, and it's based on Doom.

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MindSpunk a day ago | parent [-]

Isn't Selaco desktop only? The problem is GPL on consoles, because you can't ship GPL code to a console because it's impossible to meet the modify+re-link requirement since the consoles will only run signed code.

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monkeyelite 2 days ago | parent | prev [-]

> which is a problem if you ever want to release your game on consoles

The direction of dependency is from your program to the console specific stuff. You can write a platform library which is linked to your program without releasing that library.

> modern boomer shooters

I didn't say for boomer shooters. It's a general 3D game engine.

> just use Unity, Unreal or occasionally Godot instead of the actual Quake engine.

Because they are popular and familiar, not because they did a serious evaluation.

Also my comment was about Irrlicht/Ogre, etc.

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jsheard 2 days ago | parent [-]

If you know of an example of GPL code being cleared for release on consoles I'd be interested to hear it because I'm not aware of any. The game Wrath: Aeon of Ruin was built on a fork of the Quake engine, but then they had to spend years rebuilding it from scratch in Unity for the console releases because GPL was verboten.

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monkeyelite 2 days ago | parent [-]

Maybe you're right. I have not tried this and don't know someone who has.

I am reasoning with the example of DirectX. You should be able to release a GPL program that uses DirectX, even though nobody has the source code for it.

If some version of that is not right, it's impossible to make a GPL windows or Mac UI application.

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