▲ | Ask HN: Are there any modern devices similar to Palm Pilot? | ||||||||||||||||
17 points by butz 15 hours ago | 14 comments | |||||||||||||||||
With all mobile ecosystems closing down, I am considering switching to dumb phone. It will be used for calls and SMS only. For all my personal computing and hobby projects I would like to have some additional device that runs open source software, and does not prevent me from building and running custom applications. It would be amazing to have some device similar to classig Palm Pilot, "handheld PDA". Maybe even with stylus, 4"-5" touchscreen that easily fits anywhere. Are there any similar devices available? Tablets are way too large and are using same closed mobile ecosystems. | |||||||||||||||||
▲ | lproven 11 hours ago | parent | next [-] | ||||||||||||||||
Currently it's very limited, but the BeTrusted Precursor is in the ballpark: https://www.crowdsupply.com/sutajio-kosagi/precursor I wrote a little about it today, as it happens: https://www.theregister.com/2025/09/12/three_new_microkernel... | |||||||||||||||||
▲ | fooker 14 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | ||||||||||||||||
Remarkable devices runs standard Linux under the hood. | |||||||||||||||||
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▲ | al_borland 13 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | ||||||||||||||||
I ran into this thing someone built and is releasing kits for. It won't be near as smooth as PalmOS, but if you're into hacking a little bit, it might be worth looking at. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VPQ2q7yVjZs I've seen some other people hack together similarly devices. One was a Raspberry Pi 0 with a blackberry keyboard and a screen. Anything off the shelf and even remotely polished these days is likely running Android, which seems like it would defeat the purpose. The are Remarkable Move might be an option, if you're looking more for a notebook to organize everything, but if you want a Palm-like experience, that will also miss the mark. You could try for an old Palm or Handspring device off eBay. It might be its own island, or getting in syncing could be a project. You can run old Palm ROMS on smartphones. I tried it, but once the nostalgia wore off in 5 minutes I gave up on it. It also seems to defeat the purpose of what you're going for. | |||||||||||||||||
▲ | creer 7 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | ||||||||||||||||
"At the time", running on the device was a requirement. "Nowadays", one-the-device is harder but don't we always get enough connectivity to run web-based apps? Or at least apps through a browser? Whatever device, but our own apps from our own servers? New advantage that there is not much residing on the device which can then be lost, stolen or broken without issue. | |||||||||||||||||
▲ | adamredwoods 13 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | ||||||||||||||||
Boox Palma, or Minmal Phone, maybe? This reviewer reviews e-ink devices: https://www.youtube.com/@ChalidRaqami Best dumb phones 2025: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FwkLjrNMd3M | |||||||||||||||||
▲ | jaidan 7 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | ||||||||||||||||
I’ve never used a palm pilot, but I do have a Furi FLX1. If you don’t run the android container in it, then you aren’t exposed to the duopoly. It works as a phone. It works for documents, contacts, calendars etc. Bluetooth keyboard and mouse work, as does a USBC dock (but no DP). I like it a lot. | |||||||||||||||||
▲ | estimator7292 12 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | ||||||||||||||||
I have a ReMarkable tablet and it's pretty nice. It's large, yes, but you can get a keyboard and then it's a word processor and Linux terminal. Use emacs or ssh into a bigger machine. Plus it's just regular linux and you get root shell out of the box. There are smaller devices in a similar vein, I hear good things about Kobo. E-ink tablets are about the best thing I can think of here. Second best option is probably just an old Android device without a sim card. | |||||||||||||||||
▲ | caseyf7 12 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | ||||||||||||||||
Not exactly what you want, but I recently discovered my old Palm Pilot IIIe still works when I put batteries in it. | |||||||||||||||||
▲ | al2o3cr 14 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | ||||||||||||||||
I just got back from a trip with the Mudita Kompakt - not quite what you're describing, but close: * 4.3" monochrome e-Ink display * no web browser, no email client * de-Googled Android; only way to load apps is via APK from a computer * hardware switch to turn off all radios, for the privacy-concerned The built-in software is still a work-in-progress (eg the music player hasn't got FOLDER support yet!) but you can find e-Ink-friendly apps on repos like F-Droid. | |||||||||||||||||
▲ | comprev 15 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | ||||||||||||||||
Portable music players might fill this niche if there was an OS which could support the hardware. | |||||||||||||||||
▲ | brudgers 14 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | ||||||||||||||||
device that runs open source software To a first approximation nothing like that exists and while I understand philosophical commitment, from a getting shit done perspective, it is an unnecessary requirement. For better or worse, that ship sailed long ago because it has no commercial viability. Yes, it might make an interesting hobby project, but running any old phone might too. | |||||||||||||||||
▲ | j45 13 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | ||||||||||||||||
Superbook has some neat eink devices. Remarkable just came out with a small eink tablet that could kind of work. PostmarketOS might run on some existing devices as well. Used palm pilots are likely too if productivity apps are mostly what you're after. |