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DocTomoe 5 days ago

Semi-OT:

I currently have a QNAP TS-451D2. I use it mainly with a MacBook Pro. Something in QNAPs Samba implementation makes it glacially slow in that configuration. While it still does AFP (and then becomes somewhat decent to use), it's only a question of time for apple to chop that protocol.

With QNAP having proven to be substandard and Synology going evil, what other options for a mid-range, local NAS for the tech guy who doesn't want to have another thing to tinker with do exist? I'm thinking 'appliance', not 'project'. Ideally, I want to just set it up once and then forget about it.

radicality 5 days ago | parent | next [-]

Have you already tried tinkering with the smb settings on both the local and nas config like here:

https://support.apple.com/en-us/102064 https://support.apple.com/en-us/101442 https://gist.github.com/jbfriedrich/49b186473486ac72c4fe194a...

gbtw 5 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Truenas (linux) has been like that for me. Repurposed my last pc, added a pci-e sas/sata card, add 8 hdd's. Installed it 2 years ago and its been auto updating and i have been hardly having to deal with it, at most an hour a month to check the status and maybe add or remove some docker container stuff thats running on there.

actionfromafar 5 days ago | parent | next [-]

An hour a month + some docker shenanigans I don't understand? Your sales pitch started out so good and then - anxiety spiking for me. :-D

zer00eyz 5 days ago | parent | next [-]

Depending on what you build and how you build it you're going to have a large range of experiences.

Do you need just disks in a raid? Look at it once a month to make sure nothing stupid has happened and go on with your life. Do you want to run a bunch of services (arr stack, home assistant, full on home lab type stuff) then yes it may require some more "work" depending on what your running and how deep down the rabbit hole you want to go.

MarioMan 5 days ago | parent | prev [-]

I run TrueNAS Scale at home myself.

There’s no need to proactively check in on anything if you’ve set up email alerts. It’s pretty straightforward to give the NAS permission to send you emails in case a drive dies on you rather than failing silently.

Docker containers are just a nice bonus. You don’t need to use them if you don’t want to, but it is awfully convenient to run things like media encoders, torrent clients, download managers, etc. directly on your storage.

brnt 5 days ago | parent | prev [-]

Did something similar, but just used Debian stable and Samba. Rock stable without intervention other than an occasional login to update. My fileshare needs are simple (single user), so that might be a reason to not choose this. The nice thing is that since it's Debian you _can_ do more if you wish, at any time.

theshrike79 5 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

A Jonsbo case and Unraid: https://nascompares.com/2023/09/01/jonsbo-n2-nas-build-with-...

The Jonsbo cases are pretty compact and QNAP/Synology-ish.

As for Unraid: You pay for it, so you're the customer and can expect some kind of support. It's also pretty damn stable and supports casual "I'll just add this drive to get more space" usage compared to ZFS stuff.

fer 5 days ago | parent | next [-]

>UnRAID

>It's also pretty damn stable

Not my experience. shfs crashes like crazy, tuning some things might alleviate it but it still fails. From the dozens of workarounds recommended, the only one that seems to help (for me and some others, not for everyone) is to disable NFS, which kinda defeats the point of a NAS for me.

Also while memtest is needed to rule out a memory issue, I found some tendency to disregard these issues as hardware related... if it's only shfs crashing and not the kernel nor any other app, chances are it's an shfs issue.

Currently I think they pin it on a libfuse bug.

https://forums.unraid.net/bug-reports/stable-releases/683-sh...

https://forums.unraid.net/topic/189449-shares-keep-disappear...

https://forums.unraid.net/topic/137653-share-disappeared-aga...

https://forums.unraid.net/topic/161179-unraid-unstable-freez...

https://forums.unraid.net/topic/151605-mnt-user-is-gone/

gdevillers 5 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I found this lesser-known case: Sagittarius 8-bay https://www.reddit.com/r/DataHoarder/comments/1d0z2l3/sagitt... 8 bay while remaining compact with good airflow around disks.

nottorp 5 days ago | parent | prev [-]

Looks like we killed that site. Some header loads sloowly, but I get 'too many connections' instead of any article text.

euLh7SM5HDFY 5 days ago | parent [-]

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makeitdouble 5 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Would NFS be faster ?

It was years ago but for whatever reason SMB was slow on my Mac even when connecting to Linux boxes. I mapped my user ID to the Synology user and switched to straight NFS instead, per wise it was night and day.

lostlogin 5 days ago | parent [-]

It’s baffling how messed up it is on the Mac.

I get more reliable speeds and connections from an Ubuntu VM that’s running on the same Mac than I do from the Mac. How can this happen?

m-s-y 5 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

FWIW my qnap was also hammering my samba. After a few hours it would limit my transfers to 2Mb.

I fixed it by removing the virtual network switch that gets installed if you use the container services.

sexeriy237 5 days ago | parent | prev [-]

QNAP DOESN'T RESPOND TO RESEARCHERS THAT FIND ZERO DAYS IN THEIR CODE. that should tell you all you need to know