This. The fact that democracy is up against an extremely organized, centralized, and well resourced effort decades in the making with seemingly nothing comparable to combat it has those opposing this on completely reactive footing.

It is hard to see how a reactive group can come out on top in such a case.

"Strongly worded letter" will be imprinted in my mind for a long time. Schumer couldn't have tried to be much more disappointing in that moment.

It was a clear sign of the inaction and impotency to come.

What was the party that continually lost all the important elections supposed to do? The law is very clear that they are not in power in any way.

There's no such thing as a power that the losing team has. The people with authority in the US come from the majority party.

You want the DNC to do stuff, to solve problems, to execute plans that grow this country, you have to put them into power first

Republican voters understand just fine that if republicans don't win the election, their will does not become law. Why is that so hard for Democrat supporters and voters to understand?

Elections have consequences

Dems under biden had a plan. Manchin nixed it, they didnt have the votes in the senate without him

The Heritage Foundation is a think tank, not the RNC. Project 2025 no doubt has plenty of supporters in the RNC thanks to how influential the think tank is, but it's not an official party position. Any left of center think tank could cook up a Project 2028 document and claim it's the DNC's equivalent – it'd have just as much (official) standing as Project 2025.

Project 2025 is not a response plan. It's also not the same as the Republican platform. They publish separate documents. What you are seeing is the overlap between Project 2025 and Agenda 47. There are multiple think tanks for both sides that are not officially party affiliated - Heritage Foundation, Third Way, Center for American Progress, etc.

Most of the actual strategic mechanisms for either side will not be published. Why would you publish your playbook for the other side to anticipate your moves?

What happens is a candidate posts their platform, such as Ageneda 47. Then you can view the published documents from the think tanks on how that might be achieved, such as Project 2025. And yes, oftentimes the people creating or pushing those programs get put in charge of them or advising on them (see Biden pulling someone from the Center for American Progress to be an advisor, etc).

It's the same link as Republican's equivalent. I.e., it doesn't exist. P25 was some extreme right wing crazies that no one really cares about. It would have been a nothingburger if the Dems didn't try (and fail) so hard to associate it with Reps.

I get the feeling this is meant juxtapose the statements Democrats made about the election being very secure in 2020/2024 and how little election fraud is even attempted let alone is successful with the statements Democrats are making now about how the midterms and 2028 elections are going to be rigged.

There is surely nothing at all different about our government as it was in 2024 vs today. We don't have a president that openly told his supporters that they won't have to vote in the next election because "we'll have it fixed so good." We don't have a president helping states more effectively gerrymander their districts, we don't have an administration passing new regulations making it harder to register to vote, restrictions on mail in ballots, and new rules for voting machines designed to decease polling location throughout which affects population centers the most.

Democracy in the US isn't well protected against "find a thing that splits across parties mostly evenly and then make it harder for your opponents." The AlphaPheonix gerrymandering software can give you any election result you want. You don't have to ever stuff a ballot box to get whatever result you want.

I think every accusation is a confession.

The same thing as every election that involves voting machines: that its results cannot be trusted, and that their very presence erodes what little trust Americans can have in their failing democracy.

Now, if you want to trust that the private militia with a budget higher than every single army in the world is definitely not going to intimidate voters and that the machines being "re-certified" are going to have accurate results, boy do I have a bridge to sell you.

It was well-litigated by the Trump administration, and none of their frivolous claims held up. They lost ~60 of their 63 court cases, and the 3 they won were technicalities.

2020 was a free and fair election.

There are a variety of voting machines in use, some are like you describe. Others are ATM-like kiosks that print out your ballot based on electronic input. Verified Voting keeps a database of which precincts use which machines.

> the paper ballots retain a direct record of voter intent.

This is true, although it's expensive to recount the paper ballots and in practice people don't often do it. They routinely do a sort of checksum or sanity check by sampling small numbers of ballots. But a full-on paper ballot recount is rare.

Bush v Gore is a famous example of a recount that was halted before it finished.

There are machines that count ballots. The guys who got recruited into DOGE had experience writing software that can fool those machines

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42992351