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patmorgan23 3 days ago

Send me the link to the Democrats equivalent to Project 2025.

Here the link to Project 2025 for reference https://static.heritage.org/project2025/2025_MandateForLeade...

nozzlegear 3 days ago | parent | next [-]

The Heritage Foundation is a think tank, not the RNC. Project 2025 no doubt has plenty of supporters in the RNC thanks to how influential the think tank is, but it's not an official party position. Any left of center think tank could cook up a Project 2028 document and claim it's the DNC's equivalent – it'd have just as much (official) standing as Project 2025.

trealira 3 days ago | parent [-]

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nozzlegear 3 days ago | parent | next [-]

To be clear, I'm not defending Project 2025, Trump or the RNC. I don't need any convincing that Trump and republicans are following the plan, it's plain to anyway who's passingly familiar with it. What I'm trying to point out is that there's a strange trend for people to place all of the blame for our current state of affairs squarely on democrats and the DNC, ostensibly because of their failure to precisely match the steps of the RNC – steps the RNC didn't even take, in this case.

trealira 2 days ago | parent [-]

> steps the RNC didn't even take, in this case.

What steps are you referencing? I don't get your comment.

Also, the DNC and RNC just choose people and fundraise. It's strange to me how people refer to the parties like this.

krapp 3 days ago | parent | prev [-]

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giantg2 3 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Project 2025 is not a response plan. It's also not the same as the Republican platform. They publish separate documents. What you are seeing is the overlap between Project 2025 and Agenda 47. There are multiple think tanks for both sides that are not officially party affiliated - Heritage Foundation, Third Way, Center for American Progress, etc.

Most of the actual strategic mechanisms for either side will not be published. Why would you publish your playbook for the other side to anticipate your moves?

What happens is a candidate posts their platform, such as Ageneda 47. Then you can view the published documents from the think tanks on how that might be achieved, such as Project 2025. And yes, oftentimes the people creating or pushing those programs get put in charge of them or advising on them (see Biden pulling someone from the Center for American Progress to be an advisor, etc).

stronglikedan 3 days ago | parent | prev [-]

It's the same link as Republican's equivalent. I.e., it doesn't exist. P25 was some extreme right wing crazies that no one really cares about. It would have been a nothingburger if the Dems didn't try (and fail) so hard to associate it with Reps.

os2warpman 3 days ago | parent [-]

>P25 was some extreme right wing crazies that no one really cares about.

Project 2025 is almost halfway implemented and several of its authors hold positions in government, charged with its implementation.

Everyone who thinks it is some side project or wish list that isn't "real" and actually, literally, happening right now is a fool.

https://www.project2025.observer/en

baumy 3 days ago | parent [-]

I skimmed the Project 2025 doc during the leadup to the election when there was a big hullabaloo about it. Did not read the whole thing as it was incredibly long, but did read some summaries. Maybe 75% of it was utterly boring conservative stuff that some people surely disagree with, but is hardly worth losing sleep over. 25% or so was somewhere in the territory of extreme right wing / borderline insane.

Skimming that website, whoever is maintaining that is being...very generous with themselves about what they mark as "completed", to put it mildly. For example, "Roll back goal of haze reduction (visible air pollution)" is marked as complete, with the source being an EPA article [1] saying "[the EPA] is reconsidering its implementation of the Clean Air Act’s Regional Haze Program", but no indication of what is being reconsidered, or if anything is actually done.

Putting all of that together with the claimed 46% number, I guess you can count me as a fool. But I'm not buying the hysteria here, sorry.

[1] https://www.epa.gov/newsreleases/administrator-zeldin-begins...

os2warpman 2 days ago | parent [-]

You are a fool because you didn't expend any effort before dismissing.

Yes, on March 12, 2025 the EPA published that press release.

But a non-fool would search the CFR to see if any proposed rules had been published.

Almost exactly one month after that press release the EPA started releasing draft rules revoking the previous administration's rejections of regional haze reduction programs and approving them instead.

Here's a draft rule revoking the disapproval West Virginia's plan and approving it: https://public-inspection.federalregister.gov/2025-06608.pdf

Then you have to actually READ what West Virginia's haze reduction plan does: it removes the previous requirements to install additional post-combustion controls on various coal-fired power plants in the state in order to reduce emissions.

The rule was approved last month.

And the same thing is happening in other states.

"We're reconsidering an implementation" is bureaucratese for "that shit's done, yo".

Jesus fucking Christ this country is doomed because it's full of idiots who won't expend any energy whatsoever to figure out what's going on.