> Tons of dudes satisfying themselves without the urge to go out and do the real thing.

As one of the “dudes satisfying themselves”, I’d happily “do the real thing” if that was an option. This is like complaining that people play spaceship simulator games instead of going out to drive an actual spaceship.

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ninetyninenine 4 days ago | parent [-]

Think about it this way. If porn didn’t exist your will power to do the real thing would balloon. You would scale mountains to get it.

Like your sex drive would amp up to the point where you would spend the effort to ride the space ship.

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xigoi 3 days ago | parent [-]

> You would scale mountains to get it.

You say that as if it was a good thing.

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ninetyninenine 3 days ago | parent [-]

it is a good thing. Ironically hard effort leads to happiness. A life spent scaling mountains is happier then a life spent on the couch.

It's just where you are right now, the happiness part is not apparent. It's because it's a long term thing.

If porn or computers or TV or junk food didn't exist, you'd have nothing better to do then for mind numbing self improvement. Miserable, but in the long term you end up building something that makes you happier and more fulfilled. You build up resistance to the short term pain. And eventually depending on your case, the pain disappears completely. You start to enjoy scaling the mountain.

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xigoi 3 days ago | parent [-]

With sex specifically, the results are inversely proportional to the effort. Putting a lot of time into seducing a woman is seen as desperate and creepy. The men who are getting laid the most just walk into a bar and women throw themselves at them.

	▲	ninetyninenine 3 days ago \| parent [-]
		They get rejected too. They become numb to that pain. Eventually they get laid. Part of the pain is getting seen as desperate and creepy. The goal is to become numb to this. To not care.