I disagree with this. The “numbers” that are on induction stoves are not at all consistent. They aren’t even consistent within the same range between different burners.

Do you let your pans heat up before use? Do you let your pans slowly cool down instead of dunking them in cold water?

I haven’t had a pan warp on me for years just being mindful of letting it heat and cool at a reasonable paces rather than blasting them with the ”power” mode. And this is in Europe with our 400v kitchen outlets.

Not who you're replying to, but I use cast iron and steel on my induction stove and I've not had any warping over a period of 4 years now. One thing might be using the stove on the maximum setting? max power on an induction stove is going to be heating your pan MUCH quicker than on gas. Personally I only use settings over 8 (out of 10) for pots with water in them, not for skillets etc.

I'm in europe but if any relevant: I use mauviel and cristel pans.

> I haven't found this to be the case, they both require effort to clean.

Electrics are (generally) a smooth flat surface. Of course you're not getting out of it entirely, but it's still a question of night and day compared to the mess of a gas stove.

The smell, worry about it being left on. I've got kids, they like to cook, I'm sure they'd be capable of dealing with a gas cooktop (we've got a bunsen burner for science stuff) but it's just nice not having that.

We don't get gas pipeline connections here, we get bottles that a company comes and replaces.

Compared to gas, I find induction just as responsive, more powerful on the highest setting. A nice feature is the auto heat which gives it more power until the pan is at the target level then reduces. I also think (but not sure) that the lowest level is far cooler than the lowest gas setting was, making it easier to use for baking - melting butter, chocolate, things that require gentle warming.

So, as I say, other than the specific flames around a wok, it's better overall. I do have an induction wok, it's not as good. It's fine though, I wouldn't trade or bother with a separate gas cooktop just for that.

>>I haven't found this to be the case, they both require effort to clean.

Unless you start cooking with dirty induction cooktop, they are much easier to clean simply because the temperature is much lower, the surface is flat and easy to clean

That is not true:

https://archive.is/A23eV

https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1155/2024/6355613

Simply running a gas burner generates about twice as much PM2.5 emissions as pan-frying a chicken breast on an induction stove. And of course gas generates pollution when you're boiling or steaming things, quickly reheating, or anything that doesn't involve burning / Malliard reactions / etc. Using gas means you are at the very least doubling the amount of pollution, and in most cases it's much worse than that.

On top of all that, ventilation does nothing for the environmental impact: https://concernedhealthny.org/2022/10/burning-fossil-fuel-in...

I’ve lived in many apartments, and the vents just scatter air randomly i.e. they don't suck air and vent it outside. So getting proper ventilation isn’t really feasible unless you’re willing to open the window every time.

Gas extraction and transmission certainly affects people outside the house, so anything to reduce gas consumption is a win. Also, gas burning absolutely affects the entire neighborhood: https://concernedhealthny.org/2022/10/burning-fossil-fuel-in... I could not find the link but the problem is especially acute for people who live near restaurants in NYC. And that comment about how it's cooking food that's the problem, not the fuel, is 100% wrong: https://archive.is/A23eV

This comment and the other reply are just jaw-droppingly naive and ignorant. The indoor air quality while using a gas stove jumps to wildly unhealthy levels. But those pollutants do not just disappear! Much of it is deposited on indoor walls or residents' lungs, but much of it also leaks out of the building. Yes it is true that one teeny widdle stove won't hurt anyone except yourself, but that's why this is a tragedy of the commons that requires government regulation.

Inconsistent heat is never good for cooking.

Ok but how routinely do you flambé

I don't really have a source, but here's a bit about it: https://www.sierraclub.org/sierra/2022-1-spring/notes-here-t...

I've seen it first-hand, too. Pastry chefs in particular seem to appreciate the stability and evenness of low heat that high-end induction brings to the table. You can often see Cedric Grolet use an induction burner on his channel, for example: https://www.instagram.com/cedricgrolet/

I guess you have never worked with a slow induction cooktop. Literally we had to spend 15 minutes more for cooking things on induction compared with our previous apartment's gas connection.

Maybe they are better now but it is certainly not the case that all induction cooktops have these magical properties; many are cheap and skimp on something. While in the 5+ apartments I have been in gas has always delivered the same heating experience that I can rely on.

And to your point about rotis, no - it can not be done unless you get a different, heavier bottomed pan suitable for induction. Exactly what I was saying regarding the replacement costs.

Gas stove is a modern invention. Culture will be fine with other ways to heat the pan.

Not sure why the GP got down voted, you two are saying effectively the same thing.

Liberalism used to be about the individual and individual rights/freedoms. The term has been redefined (at least in the US) to focus on social and collective issues. When you focus on collective issues you inevitably ban things deemed worse for the collective and enforce those bans on anyone who doesn't conform.

> Are there other things to change if you care about the planet? Sure, but that's not the point and doing only one of them isn't going to make a dent on the upcoming climate catastrophes.

It's really interesting to me that this argument comes up often in environmental issues but is treated like the plague in other areas.

There was a thread a few days ago about the potential defunding of federal weather reporting services. I raised this same basic point, that we must do something about our deficit and even small cuts will help relative to doing nothing.

That landed like a lead balloon, the pain caused by any spending cuts just aren't acceptable to most people, unlike the pains caused by any regulations intended to help the environment.