Also available as a docker file, for those not running VMs: https://github.com/ArchiveTeam/warrior-dockerfile

Even normal HTTP URLs aren't great. If there was ever a case for content-addressable networks like IPFS it's this. Universities should be able to host this data in a decentralized way.

Free market is a euphemism for “there’s no physics demanding this be worked on”

If you want it archived do it. You seem to want someone else to take up your concerns.

An HN genius should be able to crawl this and fix it.

But you’re not geniuses. They’re too busy to be low affect whiners on social media.

Well, is the free market going anywhere?

Who's lost out at the end of the day? People who didn't understand the free market and lost access to these "free" services? Or people who knew what would happen and avoided them? My links are still working...

There are digital public goods (like Wikipedia) that are intended to stick around forever with free access, but Google isn't one of them.

if the smartest among us publishing for academia cannot figure this out, then who will?

Nope! There have in fact been education campaigns about the evils of URL shorteners for years: how they pose security risks (used for shortening malicious URLs), and how they stop working when their domain is temporarily or permanently down.

The authors just had their heads too far up their academic asses to have heard of this.

It's not silly if the link is a couple hundred characters long.

Crossref is designed for publishing workflows. Not set up for ad hoc DOI registration. Not least because just registering a persistent identifier to redirect to an ephemeral page without arrangements for preservation and stewardship of the page doesn’t make much sense.

That’s not to say that DOIs aren’t registered for all kinds of urls. I found the likes of YouTube etc when I researched this about 10 years ago.

perma.cc is an interesting project, thanks for sharing.

other readers may be specifically interested in their contingency plan

https://perma.cc/contingency-plan

perma.cc is great. Also check out their tools if you want to get your hands dirty with your own archival process: https://tools.perma.cc/

While Perma is solution specifically for this problem, and a good one at that - citing the might of the backing company is a bit ironic here

>The full URl to the original page.

I thought that was the standard in academia? I've had reviewers chastise me when I did not use wayback machine to archive a citation and link to that since listing a "date retrieved" doesn't do jack if there's no IA copy.

Short links were usually in addition to full URLS, and more in conference presentations than the papers themselves.

I think this is the only real answer. Shorteners might work for things like old Twitter where characters were a premium, but I would rather see the whole URL.

We’ve learned over the years that they can be unreliable, security risks, etc.

I just don’t see a major use-case for them anymore.

We are long, long past any notion that URLs are permanent references to anything. Better to cite with title, author, and publisher so that maybe a web search will turn it up later. The original URL will almost certainly be broken after a few years.

Must not be any questions about that in Leetcode.

Its almost like as if once a company becomes this big, burning them to the ground would be better for society or something. That would be the liberal position on monopolies if they actually believed in anything.

It is a business, not a charity. Adjust your expectations accordingly, or expect disappointment.

You could deprecate the service, and archive the links as static html. 200bytes of text for an html redirect (not js).

You can serve immense volumes of traffic from static html. One hardware server alone could so easily do the job.

Your attack surface is also tiny without a back end interpreter.

People will chime in with redundancy, but the point is Google could stop maintaining the ingress, and still not be douches about existing urls.

But... you know, it's Google.