| ▲ | uBlock Origin Lite Beta for Safari iOS(testflight.apple.com) |
| 300 points by Squarex a day ago | 83 comments |
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| ▲ | HexDecOctBin 16 hours ago | parent | next [-] |
| It's a shame Firefox on iOS has failed/refused to support third-party content filters [1] since 2019. Just because they can't bring Gecko doesn't mean they shouldn't try to gain mindshare for the Mozilla Firefox brand on one of the biggest platforms, yet they refuse to put in the resources. 1: https://github.com/mozilla-mobile/firefox-ios/issues/5198 |
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| ▲ | freeAgent 10 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | Somewhat ironically, you can install and use the Firefox uBO extension on Orion for iOS. Orion/Kagi figured out how to do it before Firefox/Mozilla. | | |
| ▲ | graynk 5 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | except it doesn't work. but you can install it, yes. I want to like Orion but I've seen the same bugs for a year now. | | |
| ▲ | jeffhuys 16 minutes ago | parent | next [-] | | It does work tho. Just not consistently lol | |
| ▲ | Aerbil313 4 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | I'm using Orion as my daily driver on iOS mainly because of a Safari bug[1]. It used to be very buggy, had frequent app crashes for no reason at all but nowadays (since a year?) works pretty fine, even the UBO plugin works fine. 1: You can long tap and select "Download Linked File" on any link in Safari, including links that are forbidden by Content Restrictions, such as a news.ycombinator.com link from google search. Ping me if a Safari engineer sees this and fixes it! | | |
| ▲ | dylan604 an hour ago | parent | next [-] | | A bug that happens for no reason? Aren’t these typically some sort of memory access violation, or am I just showing my age of what used to be the cause? I know nothing of iOS inner workings, but is illegal memory access still possible where this would be the behavior? | |
| ▲ | hedora 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | I use Orion. I hit some crashes until I told it to autoclose tabs after a few days. I’d rather leave that off, but it’s a minor problem. I run three firefox plugins. They all work correctly. | |
| ▲ | akmann 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | What is it with said bug, that makes you use another browser because of it? Seems not like a big deal.. |
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| ▲ | eddythompson80 10 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | Last I tried Orion was a couple of months ago. I wouldn't really say "figured out" per se. Like I see the vision, I like the vision, but I'm waiting. | | |
| ▲ | freeAgent 10 hours ago | parent [-] | | I mean that they figured out how to support (most) browser extensions on iOS in their browser, unlike Firefox. They haven’t figured everything out, but I do daily drive Orion on iOS. I still prefer Firefox on desktop due to stability (and Orion’s extension advantage in mobile doesn’t extend to desktop). | | |
| ▲ | SG- 10 hours ago | parent [-] | | Not most, they have figured out a few and they don't work very well. | | |
| ▲ | jeffhuys 8 hours ago | parent [-] | | Really all I wanted was uBlock and that works. That being said, after being my daily driver for almost a year, I went back to safari about a month ago with Wipr. 3x speedup and battery efficiency. Unfortunately, it became buggier instead of less buggy :( Still use it on mac tho - vertical tabs are a game-changer. |
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| ▲ | toofy 9 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | from what i understand orion is overflowing with bugs. even without the bugs, after everything we’ve been through with crazy shit from closed sourced browser companies, the last thing i’d install would be orion/kagi. lol nuh uh. not a chance i’d trust an ai company with almost the entirety of my online existence—especially when they close off and hide what they’re doing. | | |
| ▲ | handsclean 5 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | Orion is not made by an AI company, it’s made by Kagi. If you’re an open source or non-profit diehard then yes, it’s not that, but as far as closed source for-profit businesses go, they’re a lot better than most. They are a public benefit corporation that has rejected VC funding, and their main pitch is aligning user and company benefit, despite the mainstream currently railing against it. I’m not affiliated, just a user. | |
| ▲ | JumpCrisscross 8 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | > from what i understand orion is overflowing with bugs I use it as a daily driver on macOS. Not noticing the bugs anymore. | | |
| ▲ | trws 7 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | I just started giving it a try again about a week ago, and I second this. A year ago it was nearly unusable for any extension outside their preferred list, now it’s largely a pleasant experience. | |
| ▲ | godelski 5 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | I use it on iPhone, it has lots of bugs. But it's worth it for the ad blocking |
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| ▲ | stranded22 7 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | AI company? I thought Orion is made by Kagi? |
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| ▲ | rs186 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | People who install Firefox on iOS is likely a very small number. If I were the project manager of Firefox, and with such limited resources and Google's cash going away any day, I would not put in any work either. | |
| ▲ | neuroelectron 8 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | Apple really isn't that important. |
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| ▲ | sandstrom 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| On this topic, I have to recommend Hush! It is an excellent free, open-source and well-maintained app for iOS. https://oblador.github.io/hush/ |
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| ▲ | junaru a minute ago | parent [-] | | iOS Safari 18.5, installed and enabled in both normal and private modes. Opened a private tab and navigated to youtube.com - got cookie consent regardless. Closed every app, restarted safari fully - same results. Same on google maps. Uninstalled. |
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| ▲ | arthurtully 44 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| AdGuard on iOS has worked for me for years in it's free form. It's script based so works like uBlock Origin on desktop. |
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| ▲ | daakus an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Mostly using Wipr 2. Brave works very well but Safari seemed maybe slightly snappier (I know the browser engine is the same). Tried this but seems like it blocked less than Wipr 2 in a quick spot check. |
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| ▲ | azretd 16 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| I have used Wipr for years, and now Wipr 2. Worth the small amount to keep intrusive ads, and it is cross platform. |
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| ▲ | wao0uuno 7 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | Yeah Wiper 2 works really well but it slows down my iPhone 12 considerably. I guess there’s not enough ram for all these filters. Still faster than AdGuard. | |
| ▲ | VignuB 8 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | One of the better install and forget it content blocker. The cherry on the top of the cake is that the developer is pretty responsive too. | |
| ▲ | walterbell 12 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | Seconded. Small one-time license fee per major version. |
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| ▲ | jen729w a day ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| 1Blocker has worked tremendously well for me for what feels like a decade now. https://apps.apple.com/au/app/1blocker-ad-blocker/id13655310... |
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| ▲ | xnx 20 hours ago | parent [-] | | Look like that costs money though? | | |
| ▲ | gruez 16 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | It's absolutely bonkers that an adblocker needs to cost $15/year, when the actual filter lists are maintained by volunteers and there's (presumably) very little in the way of code changes needed. | | |
| ▲ | dylan604 an hour ago | parent | next [-] | | Having the lists freely available is only part of the battle for the end user. There are different ways of using that free data, and that takes time to develop. A good blocker can also do more than just utilize that free data as well | |
| ▲ | GeekyBear 15 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | If you don't dont see any additional value, then chose choose one of the free ad blocking options. One of the nice things for developers working in the Apple ecosystem is that users are willing to support well crafted software. Although, sometimes you do run into developers as selfless as Gorhill who still craft excellent software. | | |
| ▲ | Krasnol 7 hours ago | parent [-] | | Don't you have to pay money to host your app there in the first place which is why there is so few good, free applications? Also: what would be "additional value" in an adblocker? Either it works or it doesn't. |
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| ▲ | el_benhameen 16 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | I dunno, I’m not a fan of paying for wrappers but I get a lot from 1Blocker and I’m happy to pay for it. As far as I know it’s just one dude who builds the app, and he spends a lot of time keeping it working in the face of YouTube tactics, etc. | | |
| ▲ | gruez 16 hours ago | parent [-] | | >and he spends a lot of time keeping it working in the face of YouTube tactics, etc. Does he? Is he doing original research, or just copying whatever ublock origin/easylist puts out? After all, all the bypass methods are just javascript snippets that extensions inject into the page, so it's not like you have to spend much time porting to iOS or whatever. | | |
| ▲ | MBCook 16 hours ago | parent [-] | | You think that doesn’t require time? Doing user support? Keeping up with API changes, etc? | | |
| ▲ | gruez 15 hours ago | parent [-] | | I'm not claiming it requires 0 time, only that it's nowhere near the amount of time that would justify a $15/year price tag. | | |
| ▲ | brookst 14 minutes ago | parent | next [-] | | How many hours a month do you think is needed to “justify” charging $1.25/month? If your time has so little value, please do create an alternative and offer the same level of support and updates for a price that seems more fair to you. $0.50/month maybe? | | |
| ▲ | gruez 2 minutes ago | parent [-] | | >If your time has so little value, please do create an alternative and offer the same level of support and updates for a price that seems more fair to you. $0.50/month maybe? This thread is literally about someone providing a free alternative. |
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| ▲ | mynameisbob 13 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | You’re assuming that the price for a product should be based on the cost to offer it. In most markets, price is a function of the value perceived by buyers and relative pricing of similar products. Cost doesn’t enter into the equation. | | |
| ▲ | gruez an hour ago | parent [-] | | I'm well aware of how markets work, but that doesn't make it less bonkers. Bottled water companies take municipal water, do some "filtering", and sell it for a 10x-100x markup. I'm sure the people buying the water thinks they're getting their money's worth, but that doesn't mean we can't point out how absurd it is, nor is " in most markets, price is a function of the value perceived by buyers and relative pricing of similar products" a satisfying counterargument to that. |
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| ▲ | selcuka 12 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | Unless someone else makes an equivalent product and sell it for $14/year, and every user switches to the new product, this statement is moot. A product justifies its price tag as long as people are willing to buy it at that price. Revenue optimisation is a different concern. Would they sell more if they priced it at $10? Maybe. Would the total revenue ($10 * number of users) be higher than now? Maybe not. There is a local maxima and it appears that they calculated this to be ~$15. | | |
| ▲ | gruez 44 minutes ago | parent [-] | | >Unless someone else makes an equivalent product and sell it for $14/year, and every user switches to the new product, this statement is moot. A product justifies its price tag as long as people are willing to buy it at that price. adguard is free and I don't think I've encountered an ad that it didn't block. There's also open source adblockers like ublock origin lite, and some other one that was mentioned earlier this year but I forgot the name of. |
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| ▲ | bartvk 9 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | How many developers do you think would work even a single hour for that price tag? | | |
| ▲ | gruez 42 minutes ago | parent [-] | | I'm sure the app has at least 1000 paying subscribers? Take out Apple's 30% cut, and that's more than $10k a year. |
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| ▲ | ctippett 15 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | I use 1Blocker and I'm on a grandfathered plan that's $5 per year. It's absolutely worth it (even at $15). |
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| ▲ | browningstreet 18 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | Yup and it works on my family plan. No brainer. It’s a set-it and forget-it install. Recommended. | |
| ▲ | phire 10 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | The free functionality works well enough for me that I never saw the need to look further (until now). You can only enable one filter list, but "Ads" is a single filter list, so I just enabled that. Just means I can't enable the "Trackers" (though safari has some built in tracker blocking) or "Annoyances" lists, or add Custom rules. Though, it's going to be a deal-breaker for anyone outside of the English speaking world, because the regional filters count as a second list. | |
| ▲ | Destiner 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | I bought a life-time plan a few years ago. Feels like a no-brainer investment. | |
| ▲ | internet2000 19 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | It’s okay, you can afford it. |
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| ▲ | jjice an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| uBlock is fantastic at what it does. I'm looking forward to this. I'm currently using both Wipr 2 and AdGuard together which has worked well. AdGuard allows user defined cosmetic filters that I've come to rely on more and more in the browser, and it makes certain mobile sites so much better. Will uBlock on iOS support this? |
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| ▲ | ents an hour ago | parent [-] | | I run only Wipr2 and am happy with it, even if its $5 vs free, I'm happy to support a dev who makes a great app. I'll try UBOL for iOS when its available. |
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| ▲ | swasheck an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| i’m currently just using a nextdns profile after using adguard for a long time. i switched because i hoped that i would stop getting the annoying admiral modals telling me to turn off my ad blocker. do any of the these solutions trick the anti adblock solutions? |
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| ▲ | pmdr 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Firefox Focus as a content filter has always worked for me on Safari. Nowadays I mostly use Brave, though. |
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| ▲ | dylan604 an hour ago | parent [-] | | I get too many anti-blockers when using Firefox focus to make it anything other than something a specialist would use as a daily driver |
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| ▲ | martin_a a day ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Project page should be this?!? https://github.com/uBlockOrigin/uBOL-home |
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| ▲ | elektor a day ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Is this any better than AdGuard? I’ve heard it’s best to avoid running both but unsure whether this version of uBlock is worth it. |
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| ▲ | soraminazuki 19 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | gorhill has proven his integrity time and time again, and that's hard to beat. He works on uBO because he believes in it and not for profit. It's the one thing that I would value, especially in an ad blocker. This isn't to say that there's anything wrong with AdGuard though. | | |
| ▲ | SOLAR_FIELDS 18 hours ago | parent [-] | | Yeah honestly unless the developer can demonstrate that they don't allow ads through from who pay them to be allowed, pretty much no adblocker is going to be fully trustworthy. There will always be an incentive, if the adblocker is popular enough, for the dev to take money from an advertiser to bypass the block. If I did have to trust any adblocker though, it would be gorhill's. |
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| ▲ | vehemenz a day ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | Adguard works better right now, at least for my purposes. I'm not sure why, but uBO Lite randomly stops working at times. I've had to fire up the test page (https://ublockorigin.github.io/uBOL-home/tests/test-filters....) many times after enabling experimental filters, but it just doesn't seem to "stick." | |
| ▲ | Squarex a day ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | uBlock is open source. Some people might object AdGuard Russian foundation, but they have distanced themselves from the conflict and employ people in Ukraine. | |
| ▲ | plutokras 5 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | I have no complaints about AdGuard, but I will switch to this. uBlock is the best ad blocker across platforms, and gorhill is a legend. | |
| ▲ | gruez 16 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | It's worse IMO because it doesn't allow for custom rules, which AdGuard does. |
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| ▲ | temp0826 15 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| I like that I can use uBlock Origin in Orion on iOS but interacting with any addon in it feels finicky, so I keep it at a pretty minimal level (compared to how aggressively I block on desktop, anyways). Anything else is definitely welcome though so looking forward to it. |
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| ▲ | ivanjermakov 15 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| > Compatibility: Requires iOS 18.0 or later and visionOS 1.0 or later. Compatible with iPhone, iPad, and Apple Vision. Requires macOS 15.0 or later and a Mac with Apple Silicon chip. |
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| ▲ | HelloUsername a day ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Previous discussion on 13-may-2025: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43976898 |
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| ▲ | wao0uuno 18 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| It’s fast but doesn’t block all ads for me. |
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| ▲ | xoatic 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Works great both on my mac and iphone. Raymond rocks! |
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| ▲ | shpx 11 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| It's annoying how this adds a puzzle piece icon next to the url all the time. |
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| ▲ | gessha 3 hours ago | parent [-] | | Yeah, that happens when you install any extension for Safari iOS. I’ve learned to ignore it. |
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| ▲ | flixing 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| arrghh it's full - how to get in? |
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| ▲ | seam_carver 10 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| AdGuard doens't work for me so I'm excited on macOS |
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| ▲ | scosman a day ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Works on MacOS as well. Not just iOS. |
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| ▲ | Squarex a day ago | parent [-] | | Yes, but adblocking options on iOS are way more limited so it is more notable. |
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| ▲ | erdaltoprak a day ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Works fine so far!
I wish they could add the main settings in the app view but that’s a minor point |
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| ▲ | dom96 a day ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Nice, seems to work pretty well |
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| ▲ | scosman a day ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| oh happy day |
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| ▲ | isaachawley a day ago | parent | prev [-] |
| Can we get a link directly to the project instead of this testflight page? |
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| ▲ | altairprime a day ago | parent | next [-] | | The project page newsworthy isn’t newsworthy in any obvious way on its own, though of course anyone (including OP) could post a link to it as a helpful comment. An iOS beta signup link for it is surprising news, though! | |
| ▲ | medlazik a day ago | parent | prev [-] | | The news is "uBlock Origin Lite Beta for Safari iOS" not "uBlock Origin Lite exists" |
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