| ▲ | chillfox 3 days ago |
| Self-hosting stuff is awesome if you have the skills. I have been on a mission for the last 2 years to replace as many subscriptions as possible with self-hosted solutions. The subscriptions really had gotten out of hand, it had gotten to about $200 (AUD) a month. Quick napkin math is that I have cancelled about ~$150 a month worth of subscriptions so far. The $500 office desktop I got for a home server is struggling at this point, but it's already paid for itself, so I will likely upgrade it to something much better later this year. Currently I am in the process of replacing all the movie streaming services with Emby. Spotify and Adobe lightroom is still on the todo list. I will likely end up with Youtube, Fastmail and Borgbase being my remaining subscriptions once I am done. |
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| ▲ | layoric 3 days ago | parent | next [-] |
| This reflects a lot of what I've been through as well. My subscriptions exploded when AU got a lot of different streaming platforms, and I think when paramount+ came out and took Star Trek off of another one I drew the line. I realised I still owned all the physical media, so time to make backups. Previous to that I moved off Gmail, that was by far the hardest, and still somewhat ongoing after 8+ years. The hardest to kick for me now is YouTube Premium.. And in AU it's like $33/month AUD, but I just can't stand ads. Now I self host: - Own Mastodon instance
- Photos (Synology)
- Videos (Synology)
- Audio (Synology)
- Storage (Minio)
- Code/Build (Forejo)
- Security (Synology) My NAS is blocked from the internet, while web facing stuff is on a separate server (old dell workstation). And now have added a PI hole to another older dell box. My partner's laptop will be moving to Linux and will also be a Windows free household. I used Windows since 3.1, I liked it up until around Windows 7. I'm glad I've moved to Linux, but disappointed to see what has happened to Windows in general. I want to self host more services for family, but the experience isn't there yet without quite a lot of work. The tags #homelab and #selfhost are pretty decent to follow on Mastodon btw! |
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| ▲ | Root_Denied 3 days ago | parent | next [-] | | >The hardest to kick for me now is YouTube Premium.. And in AU it's like $33/month AUD, but I just can't stand ads. Any reason you're not just running network level AdGuard and Firefox with Ublock Origin to block all ads on your home network? Even just FF+UBO would block YouTube ads. The selfhosted subreddit is also a really good resource to use for interesting things to run. | | |
| ▲ | godelski 3 days ago | parent | next [-] | | DNS blockers aren't good enough to block all ads. Especially YouTube. Plus, many browsers will ignore DNS without configuration and same for phone apps. While this can be fine for me it's not for everyone else in my family nor guests. And that's before we talk about Apple... If anyone has a solution I'd love to learn. | | |
| ▲ | volteret4 3 days ago | parent | next [-] | | I use Invidious whitout a a hassle, and firefox with ublock when I can not. For android there is New Pipe and some forks. I prefer to pay my yt loved channels than ser a fucking add | | |
| ▲ | godelski 2 days ago | parent [-] | | You misunderstand the goal. > to block all ads on your home network?
That. That is the problem we're looking at.I already use Firefox on /my computer/. We were talking about a pihole or some /network/ solution. How do I block ads on my friends computer when they get into my network without touching their computer? How do I block ads on my TV? You'd have to do something like deep packet inspection. Devices I fully control I can trivially solve this but there are plenty of devices I don't, including ones I own. And for Android, you know you can use revanced, right? You can recompile the app and others to get more control | | |
| ▲ | steine65 2 days ago | parent [-] | | If you have a tv with WebOS there is an ad-removed youtube app you can load. Doesn't solve your friend's problem but might solve part of the problem. | | |
| ▲ | godelski 2 days ago | parent [-] | | I don't. Sure, I can root my TV and certainly there's exploits for that. But honestly that example isn't the problem and is much more easily solved by treating my TV as a monitor. |
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| ▲ | thaumasiotes 2 days ago | parent | prev [-] | | Ublock Origin is sufficient to block all ads on youtube. | | |
| ▲ | godelski 2 days ago | parent [-] | | You're misunderstanding the problem. We were talking DNS blockers. The context matters. I already use ublock but I can't do ublock on my pihole. I can't do it on an iPhone (I can use orion browser but YouTube quality is low). I can't do it on my TV. I can't do it on my friends computer that visits my house. And so on. I appreciate you trying to help but you're misunderstanding the problem and honestly I don't know how someone could be on HN and not know about ublock. |
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| ▲ | mbs159 a day ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | uBlock Origin Lite for Chrome blocks YouTube ads perfectly fine. On Android you can block ads through ReVanced, on Android TV - SmartTube. | |
| ▲ | chillfox 3 days ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | YouTube is a bit of a problem. I feel like it costs about double of what it should be, but I also think that content creators should be paid, and I absolutely hate ads. | |
| ▲ | kassner 3 days ago | parent | prev [-] | | If you use Android. On iOS, even Pihole with isn’t enough. | | |
| ▲ | armsaw 2 days ago | parent [-] | | The Yattee client for Invidious works great on iOS, or the Vinegar/Baking Soda browser extensions that replace the YouTube player with a basic (ad-free) HTML5 player work also. |
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| ▲ | godelski 3 days ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | I've been on this mission but unfortunately also trying to defend my PhD in a month. But I do have a lot more Linux experience. Here's stuff that I think will really help. yt-dlp: a video downloaded. Originally designed for YouTube but supports a lot of sites. I suggest heavily aliasing this with options like sleep intervals, aria2, and make sure you download the user agent switcher. For YouTube you probably need to import cookies from a browser. But you'll be able to watch the videos without the ads. Btrfs: it's a file system, like ext4 or ntfs. Has a lot of useful things like being able to create subvolumes, raid, cache drives (or volumes), quotas, snapshots, etc. Think anything that you'd do with zfs but it's been easier to use and it has a copy on write system that helps dedupe. You can also compress the file system! I use duperemover. If it finds dupes it replaces one file with a link (which btrfs natively supports). It'll hash the files so run it early and then set up a job (use a systemd timer) Tailscale: take your network anywhere. God, tailscale is so fucking useful. You can even put it on a raspberry pi or your phones. It's nice to have it on an old phone which you can throw termux on and have a little server. I've used these to jump to another machine that has had issues where it could connect locally but not outside. You can also set up exit nodes so you can do things like push all your traffic through a vpn, make all your traffic use pihole, or just make it appear like you're somewhere else. You could use this to even make it effectively impossible for streaming services to know you're sharing an account. The data is going through whoever's house pays. If you get fancy you can set up rules to port specific traffic through specific locations but this is still a bit above my head. I just know it's possible. Unfortunately with iPhones you have less control. They can even break out of all this and you don't have full control. I need to get someone to explain more networking to me. Systemd: it's annoying at first but damn there's so much to it that is helpful. Use systemctl edit to edit your service files. The ones that come with services like jellyfin aren't nearly as locked down as they should be (I intend to push to them in a few months). You should also use systemd mount for your drives. You need a companion automount file but your drives will go offline when not being used. This will really help with reducing energy costs. Be sure to note that there's even configs for you gpus. It also lets you control a systems resources. There's also nspawn and vmspawn. I wish these were a bit more popular because they can do everything docker can and more. Nspawn is a suped up chroot so you can really containerize things and even run different Linux flavors (I've even been play around with running an arm container on my x86 machine). Using machinectl you can enable these as services and even create triggers to spin up or down. There's also importctl so if you create an image (or someone else does) you can just pull that! Which kinda makes it easier than docker in many cases other than the fact that not many people have made images (or publicly available). Docker's big win is popularity but systemd has felt nicer in every other way (documentation sucks). There's so much more to systemd and that's why it's loved and hated. There's a reason it stuck, it just is too damn useful (don't forget to check out homectl too) Ffmpeg: you probably know this one but it's also worth spending some time to learn it more and write some scripts. If you care more about storage I encode most stuff to av1 with nvenc. It's not archival but honestly I'm often getting 50% storage reductions and I can't tell the difference. Your source file probably wasn't archival grade anyways. Good enough for me. Hevc is also giving me good success. There's a bunch of other little tools that help. For example, I have my main computer sitting behind my TV. If I'm working on it I'm in it via ssh. Otherwise games and movies are on the TV. I use ydotool as a keyboard and just made a shortcut on my iPhone and a trivial script on my Android so I can push commands that way and use a wireless mouse. There's kconnect but it's been more a hassle than help ime. I did the same for backing up photos on from my phones (they wake the drives first). Android can rsync but for iPhone I can't find a good free solution other than writing the hackiest shortcut you've seen (ssh in, check if file exists, if not then write. You can't rsync, the fucking thing will timeout and despite there being terminal emulators for iPhone you can't access your photos from them. I've found zero ways to link them and I'm upset). Check out things like fail2ban to jail users that do too many logins. You can also use nspawn to containerize these services, spin up and down, and between btrfs, homectl, and pam it is really easy to containerize users. You can mount their volumes on demand and get their accounts syncing across your intranet. It's kinda crazy what you can do. My goal is to get some images so many of these things can start becoming plug and play. I'm getting close but obviously bigger priorities right now. I'd love help if anyone is interested. I'm not an expert in these domains so I'm sure I'm doing some things wrong but I'm learning a ton | | |
| ▲ | steine65 2 days ago | parent [-] | | This is great. If you ever wrote about your entire setup I'd love to read it. Got a few new ideas from your post. To anyone reading, the most helpful tool for setting up my homelab is the community helper-scripts (formerly tteck, RIP). Those have saved me soooo much time, and showed me best practices in setup, and the list of scripts give you a good idea of tools that are commonly used. | | |
| ▲ | godelski 2 days ago | parent [-] | | I have drafts for it but maybe I shouldn't have made this comment under my anonymous account lol. I'm a firm believer that tools should be made to be usable by both technical and nontechnical people. Usually we do one or the other but it's a false dichotomy. "For the noobs" pushes for sane defaults, reduced complexity, and fixing bugs. It's also an entry point to become a power user, especially as being a power user in one domain doesn't mean you're automatically in another. "For the power users" gives flexibility, helps fix bugs (faster and higher coverage), as well as is critical for feature development (unless you naively believe you can know everything your diverse users need and have an infinite budget), and evangelize your product. The magic of success requires having both but I think we pretend it is one or the other. It needs to work well and be pretty. |
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| ▲ | fabatka 3 days ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | What about backups? My greatest fear is self-hosting valuable stuff (like family photos) only for my NAS to fail one day and lose potentially everything. | | |
| ▲ | switch007 3 days ago | parent | next [-] | | There are good options. Borg, rsync.net with zfs send/recv. Storage boxes from Hetzner Hard to make a particular recommendation as backing up to the cloud is a popular option but depends on your upload speed and rate of data change. And depends how much you're willing to spend for what tradeoff | | |
| ▲ | yard2010 3 days ago | parent [-] | | Storage box from hetzner is great. Hetzner is a good company, I'm glad that I'm doing business with them. The service is good, cheap, reliable, and... Un-american which means it would probably stay good and won't enshitify. Use Hetzner! I'm not affiliated just a happy customer. | | |
| ▲ | redeeman a day ago | parent [-] | | i use hetzner too, and I like their current services. But I think we all do good in never assuming or relying on ANY company being our friends. Be vigilant |
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| ▲ | chillfox 2 days ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | I keep important data on a zpool that's mirrored across 2 drives, I snapshot it nightly, zfs send/receive the snapshot a drive on a different machine, and run a borgmatic/borg backup to borgbase 3 times a week. I also run a scrub on it quarterly. So I effectively have multiple layers of backups. | |
| ▲ | 28304283409234 2 days ago | parent | prev [-] | | Once a year I sync all media from my laptop to a USB disk. Once in a while I buy a new disk. This is more than enough backup for me. |
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| ▲ | BrandoElFollito 3 days ago | parent | prev [-] | | > the experience isn't there yet without quite a lot of work. Do you host this with docker? It is usually the pain-free approach |
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| ▲ | anthropodie 3 days ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| >Self-hosting stuff is awesome if you have the skills. >I have been on a mission for the last 2 years to replace as many subscriptions as possible with self-hosted solutions. I have been doing the same for quite some time now but it's only recently I realized all these subscriptions services are just making rich richer. We should encourage self hosting as much as possible. I mean why should we pay huge corporations more money just for storage? |
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| ▲ | flessner 3 days ago | parent | next [-] | | For "content subscriptions" (Spotify, YouTube, Netflix) keep in mind that a part of the revenue goes towards the content creators. For anything else, I can also highly recommend using local or self-hosted software. Plenty of open source software has even exceeded proprietary alternatives in the last couple years. | | |
| ▲ | itissid 3 days ago | parent | next [-] | | You know if we could this open source self hosted stuff with a layer of Patreon on top people would pay something to all the people. If one could make it non-intrusive it could become a decent alternative to paying all these artists. I think Kanopy.com comes pretty close, its funded by tax payer dollars and is available via your local library. | | | |
| ▲ | chillfox 3 days ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | Sure, but they also got a cut from all of those dvds I bought before streaming services was a thing or the new dvds/blu-rays I am picking up now. I mostly watch movies I have already seen before, but with the fragmentation and constant moving around that's happening with steaming services I would frequently end up using 3+ different ones every month. The constant cancel/renew cycle was a real hassle and very error prone, I would often forget one or two. I only watch about 20 new movies a year, so even without hunting for bargains I will easily save a lot of money. But I will be looking for bargains, because why not. | | |
| ▲ | l72 a day ago | parent [-] | | I also now purchase blu-rays pretty often. I rip them, store them on my jellyfin sever, then put them in the neighborhood little free library box. I also visit my local library almost every week. They have a surprisingly excellent movie and tv catalog! I have now cancelled all my movie and music streaming services! |
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| ▲ | WhyNotHugo 3 days ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | I suspect that buying an album through bandcamp results in the artist receiving way more money than what a subscription will ever pay them. | | |
| ▲ | flessner 2 days ago | parent [-] | | Absolutely, this was more of an appeal towards the "torrent crowd" that often doesn't even think about compensating the artists. |
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| ▲ | pdntspa 3 days ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | It is an incredibly, and almost criminally, small portion of the pie | | |
| ▲ | chappi42 3 days ago | parent [-] | | Better than nothing... | | |
| ▲ | KeplerBoy 3 days ago | parent | next [-] | | At this point you might just order a tshirt from an indie band once a year to help out artists more than with a Spotify subscription. | |
| ▲ | pdntspa 2 days ago | parent | prev [-] | | Is it though? If it were nothing artists might be in a better negotiating position to demand something. But now instead of demanding payment, they are asking for a raise instead. |
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| ▲ | godelski 3 days ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | Weird thought, but doesn't some of the stuff the blockchain people do potentially apply here? I'm not talking building a new coin or any of that crap. But rather more about just handling the transactions of plays and a distributed anonymized ledger. Artists can formulate a contract, users pay in and their pay gets distributed proportionally. I'm sure you could add zkps to help protect privacy. Could you get away with "proof of listen"? Could you stream via other users torrent style to move away from a central hub? Hosting and high upload speeds give you discounts. Maybe there's something in this (bad) idea? I'm really just spitballing here. Seems really difficult to pull off, but what would such a system look like if we didn't design it for profit extraction and instead designed it to cut out all the middlemen? To really just make it as easy as possible for artists to connect to listeners. If we designed it without a desire to get rich | | |
| ▲ | yard2010 3 days ago | parent [-] | | Yes so this is the future you're speaking of. A complete separation between client and server, and none of the current bs enshitified monopolies. Just need to wait a few years tm. |
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| ▲ | tirant 3 days ago | parent | prev [-] | | I really don’t understand the argument that these subscriptions are just making the rich richer. In the first place why would that be a problem? If a company offers a good value and service for your money, isn’t it fair to compensate them for it? Does someone need to be compensated less just because they have been successful in the past providing good value for money? That would create weird or negative incentives. Then, what’s the negative consequence of rich people getting richer? It’s not like the economy is a zero-sum game. The proportion of poor and extremely poor people has gone downhill in the last 200 years, while population has increased 8x (we’re probably around 10% of extreme poverty compared to +90%). And then, there’s the lack of evidence of really rich people getting richer. How much of your money going to Spotify is really going to rich people compared to employees, artists, little shareholders? Maybe the impact of the earnings of Spotify is disproportionately helping normal citizens make a living compared to the very few big shareholders that are already rich. What’s the alternative? Spending the same amount of money exclusively on Albums that probably bring a higher cut to big music companies and do not expose you to little or unknown artists? While at the same time you spend hours every month in the maintenance of your own music service while you could have used that time to help in some community projects or just earning more money to donate to causes impacting the extremely poor? I’m really not sure at all that a subscription service like Spotify has any negative consequence for humankind. |
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| ▲ | bambax 3 days ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Self hosting is absolutely awesome. I upgraded my NAS to a recent Asustor a year ago and it changed my life. JellyFin for video works perfectly everywhere in my home, on any device, and it can also be accessed remotely, securely, with Tailscale, so if I'm in a hotel somewhere with my iPad it still works. And my library is curated by me; it has classic movies and other movies I like, and zero fluff or random shows that I would never watch in a million years. But self hosting doesn't stop here. Using Docker (via Portainer) I can publish any app in minutes, on either Apache or Nginx, securely with a Cloudflare tunnel (free) without ever exposing my home IP to the world. This of course isn't as resilient as a proper server with a proper provider, but it's so much simpler and so much cheaper that for hobby projects it's largely good enough. |
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| ▲ | mrheosuper 3 days ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Don't forget the electricity cost come with home server. A quick math will show that it's not insignificant |
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| ▲ | SECProto 3 days ago | parent | next [-] | | > Don't forget the electricity cost come with home server. A quick math will show that it's not insignificant If you run it 24/7 on a dedicated desktop with decent idle (i.e. no high power video card, low power CPU), it likely uses ~ 50W average. That gives an estimate of 0.05kW24hr30 = 36kWh, which would be in the range of $12/month at current australian electricity prices. If you have bad idle power usage (or somehow mostly active not idle), maybe you'd be looking at twice that. But for OP who was spending $xxx/month on subscriptions, it's a pretty negligible cost. If you really want to save this too, raspPi can do a lot of home server needs nowadays | | |
| ▲ | ninjinxo 3 days ago | parent | next [-] | | An N100 minipc or second-hand Dell Optiplex doesn't cost too much more than a rasp-Pi ($100-200), has a lot more power, and will only pull about 10W idle. My optiplex shows as 8.191 kwh last month -> 11w average. | | |
| ▲ | morsch 3 days ago | parent | next [-] | | Is 10W idle the lowest one can reasonably get a small home server? As a comparison, that's about as much as my fridge draws on average. Also, a mechanism to maximize the time spent at idle would be useful. Basically all the optimisations done for phones. | | |
| ▲ | kassner 3 days ago | parent [-] | | The Mac Mini M4 can draw as little as 3W during video playback via HDMI, but all your energy savings will be offset by the price of storage. There are plenty of old laptops that would be a great replacement, mine draws 8W at idle with 2x2TB SSDs: https://www.kassner.com.br/en/2023/05/16/reusing-old-hardwar... I’m interested in the next generation: arm64 machines with 2xM.2 slots could do wonders as an idler. |
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| ▲ | SECProto 3 days ago | parent | prev [-] | | yep yep n100s are great. I just use my gaming desktop as server, uses more money in power but it'd be on for hours a day anyway and i already own it, so i'm not concerned. |
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| ▲ | bigfatkitten 3 days ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | Unless you've got a decent amount of rooftop solar. I haven't paid an electricity bill in four years. | |
| ▲ | mrheosuper 2 days ago | parent | prev [-] | | Those HDD will quickly add to total power consumptions OP was trying to replace streaming services, so he gonna need storage. Assuimg he had 3 hdd for raid 5, that is another 15*3 = 45w | | |
| ▲ | SECProto 2 days ago | parent [-] | | Looking at a WD spec sheet, it's more like 6-7W during read/write, and 3-4W during idle (1W sleep). Assume your use spread however you want, but that would be a max average of 5W usage per drive, so another 5-20W depending on your storage needs. |
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| ▲ | Semaphor 3 days ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | Dunno, my N100 with 1 SSD and 1 nVME (which hosts over 15 services including jellyfin) is probably not really relevant compared to my desktop PC. ~10W vs 180-350W depending on what I’m doing. | |
| ▲ | anthropodie 3 days ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | Run it on Raspberry Pi. It brings down electric consumption significantly. | | | |
| ▲ | 01100011 3 days ago | parent | prev [-] | | And while it heats your home in the winter, it also puts more strain on your A/C in the summer. There are also noise and light pollution issues if it's near a bedroom. |
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| ▲ | BrandoElFollito 3 days ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| > The $500 office desktop I got for a home server is struggling at this point I have a ~10 years old desktop as my server (intel skylake and 24GB of RAM). I host about 20 services and the server is not loaded at all. The services are the usual ones, nothing heavy such as LLMs, though |
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| ▲ | chillfox 2 days ago | parent [-] | | I have got 26 docker containers running on it.
Looking at current utilization, it's 6% of cpu, 10GB ram out of 16gb.
The issue is disk access. The thing has total shit bandwidth to storage, this was a surprise to me and a bit of a learning experience. It has an nvme ssd and a 3.5 hdd, but in the end usb drives attached to the usb 2 ports are much faster than either. It's a Lenovo, so I guess they cut costs somewhere and the usb 2 ports should have been a giveaway, but I was tricked by the nvme. |
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| ▲ | zaphodias 3 days ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| I'm doing the same, I have family plans with my friends for pretty much anything so I don't think I ever reached such high monthly costs though. I started my home server for self hosting Immich, not only for the cost but because I like to have my images close to me. I also recently replaced Lightroom with ON1, it's definitely not the same quality but, as hobbyist, it didn't make much sense to pay that much for me anymore. It was by far the most expensive subscription I had. |
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| ▲ | HexPhantom 3 days ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| $150/month shaved off is no joke. It's funny how these subscriptions creep up until you're basically running a second rent in background services. |
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| ▲ | Ziggy_Zaggy 3 days ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| With all the SWE in the mix, why not just roll your own media player...? It's not THAT hard. Same for movie player btw (and one solution can do both ofc). HTML spec for media is pretty amazing these days, no real excuses outside of time. |
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| ▲ | TJSomething 3 days ago | parent | next [-] | | That's been sitting on my ideas list for over a decade, because I've wanted Pandora that runs locally from my collection. But I'm not sure I'll realistically ever get to it. | |
| ▲ | solumunus 3 days ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | Why roll your own media player? The reasons not to seem obvious. | |
| ▲ | chillfox 2 days ago | parent | prev [-] | | Time is pretty much the reason. |
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| ▲ | artdigital 3 days ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| I have my collection in Dropbox, then sync that onto my home server with rclone once a day, which exposes it to Plex. Then I use the Plexamp app (music-only Plex app) to listen across all my devices |
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| ▲ | smj-edison 3 days ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| What do you do for backups? I'm just setting up an Emby instance with a 4 TB hard drive attached, but I'm worried it'll fail and take everything with it. |
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| ▲ | nickspacek 3 days ago | parent | next [-] | | Look into Backblaze B2. Use rclone, or another backup tool that has S3 compatibility (though B2 API has some additional bells and whistles). With rclone, you can also have a step to seamlessly encrypt the contents on the client side before sending to an external provider like B2. I chose B2 because it is the most affordable option, but rclone supports many backends. | | |
| ▲ | switch007 3 days ago | parent [-] | | Rclone is a great tool but it is not really a complete backup tool. Ie no snapshots. You can use it to sync local snapshots or to a destination that does snapshots for example Borg/restic are more complete solutions |
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| ▲ | chillfox 3 days ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | In general I use Borg/Borgmatic with borgbase for backup, but movies are a little big, so for now I am just using zfs send/receive to keep a copy on a usb drive updated. Once I am done getting the encoding pipeline scripted (av1/opus/vtt) and the size goes down I will likely start sending it to borgbase as well, or maybe store a copy at my mums place. I would prefer to use a cloud backup solution that supports zfs send/receive, but they are a bit pricy.
zfs.rent seems like a nice solution, but not sure using a US location is a great idea. | |
| ▲ | russelg 3 days ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | Is there really a point in backing up media? Unless you've ripped it yourself, I'm sure anything you have is easily obtainable again. | | |
| ▲ | al_borland 3 days ago | parent | next [-] | | Some things are popular in the moment and very hard to come by 10-20 years later if they aren’t pretty popular. TV shows especially. I’ve been considering buying some of those giant DVD lots that come up on Craigslist from time to time, or checking out flea markets for good deals. With the way things are heading, one of my fears is I will get old and lose access to some of the shows are movies I loved in my youth. Licensing with streaming services are so fickle, and some others are removed or edited if they around found to be politically incorrect a decade or two after being made. I want to make sure I still have access to the original versions. I do often wish I was one of those people who didn’t care, and could be happy with an iPad as my main computer, but it’s not in the cards for me. | | |
| ▲ | chillfox 3 days ago | parent [-] | | This, if you have some favorites or just movies that remind you of your youth, don't wait, go get them on dvd now. It gets harder and more expensive the longer you wait. I have been hunting down the movies that I was watching when growing up and it's been a real mission, especially the really old ones that were made before I was born. |
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| ▲ | bigstrat2003 3 days ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | It's the other way around if anything. If you ripped it yourself, you still have the original media and can rip it again. If you sailed the seven seas, it may or may not be around if you go to look for it in the future. | |
| ▲ | dharmab 2 days ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | Another one I realized - content is often edited in later versions. Two examples in my collection are the theatrical vs current versions of the Star Wars trilogy, and Top Gear, which had the original licensed music replaced by worse generic music in newer releases. | | |
| ▲ | l72 a day ago | parent [-] | | This is a major issue for me for both video and music streaming platforms. Do you know what version of the Abyss you are going to get? Is it that theatrical version that cut out a major plot point or the director's cut that includes it? What about Blade Runner? Do you want the original theatrical version or the super duper pointless extended Director's Cut? You don't get a choice with streaming, and you often don't even know what version it'll be. I find this is even worse with music. Take the Beatles. Their songs have been remastered many times. Some of the remasters are good, and some of them ruin the music for me. But what version are you going to get? And, you may be listening to a good version today, but due to label negotiations, have it swapped out with a different version tomorrow. I take a lot of pride in curating my personal media collection. I know these issues aren't important to everyone (and some people who might care are just unaware), but they are incredibly important to me. |
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| ▲ | dharmab 3 days ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | I have a lot of media from countries that are not the US. That kind of stuff tends to disappear from the internet and market. | |
| ▲ | switch007 3 days ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | Yeah my TV/movies drive is just mergerfs of two drives. I view it as a cache but I'm lucky to have a gigabit connection. Anything I want to keep I'll make a specific decision and move it to my RAID1 drive which is backed up off-site. | |
| ▲ | chillfox 3 days ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | My initial though was to not bother with backup, I still have the DVDs/Blu-rays if the HDD dies, but with the amount of time it takes to load in I changed my mind on that. | |
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| ▲ | sunflowerfly 3 days ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | A lot of my media are home movies. | |
| ▲ | ThrowawayTestr 3 days ago | parent | prev [-] | | You'd think so but lost media is called that for a reason. |
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| ▲ | Semaphor 3 days ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | Not OP, but I use a PI with attached SSD as a backup server, and then save that stuff to Backblaze B2 as additional cloud backup. | |
| ▲ | dharmab 3 days ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | Amazon S3 Deep Archive and rclone for < 4-5TB. Backblaze in a Windows VM or container for 5TB+. | | |
| ▲ | Beijinger 3 days ago | parent | next [-] | | How much is this a month? Opendrive.com is 100 USD a year for 10 TB | | |
| ▲ | dharmab 2 days ago | parent [-] | | You can look at their pricing (it depends on region). With my usage I'm paying about $25 annually using S3. But if I ever need to full restore I'll be paying around $100 in data transfer fees. |
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| ▲ | electriclove 3 days ago | parent | prev [-] | | Do you have a write up on how to do these? | | |
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| ▲ | Beijinger 3 days ago | parent | prev [-] | | You need two HDD and an online backup (opendrive) |
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| ▲ | lhamil64 2 days ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Where do you get media from? Piracy is an option, but if you want to do it semi-legally I guess you’d need to rip blu-rays, but that seems like it'd be more expensive than streaming services, and you’d have to wait for everything to be released on blu-ray (if it even does) |
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| ▲ | chillfox 2 days ago | parent [-] | | I have a large dvd collection from before streaming was really a thing, but yeah I just get blu-rays of the movies I really like. Most of the movies I watch is ones I have already watched. I was really only watching 1-2 movies a month that were new to me with streaming, and few of them were actually new releases. |
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| ▲ | bane 3 days ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Unraid makes a lot of the home lab stuff pretty easy. There's a very active community, good docs, frequent updates. It costs a little, but it's one time and worth it, and can grow as you have time and money to add stuff to it. |
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| ▲ | udev4096 3 days ago | parent [-] | | You have to be extremely dumb to even think of using unraid. It introduces a hard dependency on whatever you do and is nothing more than a glorious wrapper for managing docker services | | |
| ▲ | bane 3 days ago | parent [-] | | What dependency is that? Unraid is mostly used for storage management, the docker and vm parts are definitely side bits to the system. | | |
| ▲ | udev4096 2 days ago | parent [-] | | Yes, mostly storage. But why? Storage == ZFS. ZFS cli is well documented and works extremely well. Don't use unraid or truenas or any other fancy UI. I know the appeal from the beginners but it's not worth it | | |
| ▲ | bane 2 days ago | parent [-] | | You might be amazed to discover there's a an entire world of storage outside of ZFS. | | |
| ▲ | MrDrMcCoy 2 days ago | parent [-] | | You might be amazed to find there's a lot of good reasons the storage world moved away from the RAID4 model Unraid relies on. They're proprietary too, which isn't great if you care about recoverability or never being in a position where they can withdraw your license. | | |
| ▲ | bane a day ago | parent [-] | | Unraid doesn't use raid4. The both of you,stop making things up. | | |
| ▲ | MrDrMcCoy a day ago | parent [-] | | https://docs.unraid.net/unraid-os/overview/nas/ Having parity on a one or more separate disks is one of the hallmarks of RAID4, and as such the comparison conceptually makes sense even if it's not literally RAID4. The actual state of their data protection is actually worse due to data not being striped across the data drives, reducing I/O, causing balancing issues, limiting large file sizes, and increasing risk of data loss if the wrong drive is killed at the wrong time. Modern software RAID not only solves all these problems, but also automatically heals bit rot and often includes compression support for both space savings and increased throughput. Unraid stalwartly refuses to grant these protections and enhancements to its users in the name of "simplicity", which I as a storage engineer must balk at. Put your data at unnecessary risk if you want. I will shed no tears for you. | | |
| ▲ | bane a day ago | parent | next [-] | | The sum of your arguments are basically "unraid doesn't do a particular thing I like using Cli tools" then make a bunch of self contradictory claims of what those things are. Then you double down in your made up arguments. This is just bad faith trolling behavior unwelcome here on HN. I'm flagging you both. | |
| ▲ | udev4096 a day ago | parent | prev [-] | | I am not surprised he doesn't know. Most of the unraid users are completely clueless and are UI junkies with no understanding of what the underlying services they use | | |
| ▲ | bane a day ago | parent [-] | | As I told your possible sock puppet, this kind of bad faith trolling behavior has no place on HN. I've flagged you both. | | |
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| ▲ | russelg 3 days ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Is there a reason you went with Emby over Jellyfin (forked from Emby)? |
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| ▲ | chillfox 3 days ago | parent [-] | | Emby just felt more polished and focused while Jellyfin felt like it was on the path towards feature bloat. Also, I had more confidence in Emby supporting future devices I might get than Jellyfin. When it comes to supporting multiple media types (video/audiobooks/music/etc..) I prefer using a seperate solution for each that is focused on that use case instead of an all-in-one solution. I am using audiobookshelf for audiobooks and podcasts, so I really don't need that from my video solution. I have configured Emby to keep the metadata in nfo files next to the videos, so I should be able to easily switch to something else if things change in the future. |
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| ▲ | nadnad 3 days ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Would love to hear more details about your setup. |
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| ▲ | chillfox 2 days ago | parent [-] | | It's a pretty simple setup. I run Alpine Linux with ZFS, all apps are in docker containers managed with docker-compose, Caddy for reverse proxy, borgmatic/borg for backup, and some scripts managing zfs snapshots. |
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| ▲ | Inviz 3 days ago | parent | prev [-] |
| What do we do about Lightroom? Capture one? How about sharing galleries? |
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| ▲ | sathyabhat 3 days ago | parent | next [-] | | Immich is pretty good for sharing photos. https://immich.app/ | | |
| ▲ | Scene_Cast2 3 days ago | parent [-] | | Immich is amazing, but it's a Google Photos alternative, not a RAW editor alternative. |
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| ▲ | chillfox 3 days ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | I don't know.
I was dumb enough to move my entire photo library into Lightroom cloud back when they released that. It's a nightmare. It's pretty easy to export the photos, you get them down organized by date and photos with edits are there both as the original and a "-edited" version. What is missing is the library organization. I really want to get my library organization as well, it's very valuable to me, it's what has got the details of what photos was from what event. And I don't really know how to get that down. I am thinking I will have to scrape it from the webapp or something like that. It's been left to last as it's both one of the cheaper subscriptions and a total nightmare to get out of. As for what app to use when it's all down, Capture One or Darktable seems reasonable with a network attached drive. | |
| ▲ | presto8 3 days ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | I like darktable as a Lightroom alternative. | |
| ▲ | iLoveOncall 3 days ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | Rawtherapee has a better UX than Lightroom in my opinion and I've never felt limited by it. | |
| ▲ | npodbielski 3 days ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | You might check out https://www.photoprism.app/ | |
| ▲ | MrDrMcCoy 2 days ago | parent | prev [-] | | Darktable and RAWtherapee are both excellent Lightroom alternatives. |
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