Nice. I guess the issue is that this is such a basic i/o feature that any system with some modicum of customization can already do it.

It's like offering a service that provides storage by api for agents. Yeah, you can call the api, or call the s3 api directly or store to disk.

That said, I would try it before rolling my own.

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potatoman22 7 months ago | parent | next [-]

Anecdotally, I've worked with and on a few enterprise AI apps and haven't seen this functionality in them. The closest thing i can think of is AI coding agents submitting PRs to repos.

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dhorthy 7 months ago | parent [-]

tl;dr i agree

yeah in fact coding / PR-based workflows is one of the few areas where I don't really go super deep. GitHub PRs may have their shortcomings, but IMO it is the undisputed best review/approval queue system in existence by a mile.

i would never encourage someone to make an agent that asks human permission before submitting a PR. the PR is the HitL step

	▲	TZubiri 7 months ago \| parent [-]
		disagree with both, unless your AI agents have full root access to all your systems and access to your bank accounts and whatnot, they are at some point interfacing with other systems that have humans involved in them.

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dhorthy 7 months ago | parent | prev [-]

i think the slack side is easy. I think an AI-optimized email communication channel is a long ways off. I spent weeks throwing things at my monitor figuring out reliable ways to wire DNS+SES+SNS+Lambda+Webhooks+API+Datastore+Async Workers so that everything would "just work" with a few lines of humanlayer sdk.

And what we build still only serves a small subset of use cases (e.g. to support attachments there's a whole other layer of MIMEtype management and routing to put things in S3 and permission them properly)

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TZubiri 7 months ago | parent [-]

>DNS+SES+SNS+Lambda+Webhooks+API+Datastore+Async Workers so that everything would "just work" with a few lines of humanlayer sdk.

What are you smoking my man?

Write a python script that begins with the 2 following lines "import openai import email "

Simple is better than complex

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dhorthy 7 months ago | parent [-]

hmm, like, i love simplicity, and I'm open to other approaches, but I specifically wanted to solve the "send an email to an AI Agent" sort of concept, and give that agent rails to talk back the the human. Doesn't `import email` require SMTP, DNS, signing infra, etc? can it set up MX infra and receive payloads from a mail exchange?

	▲	TZubiri 7 months ago \| parent [-]
		Import email IS smtp. MX and SPF is as trivial as with providers. Dkim might be harder. But emails will still go through. You can also rent an smtp server and have a similarly simple infra where you log in to the server to read and send emails. If this is too complex, I'd recommend starting with a private protocol like discord, which is designed for kids, or telegram as an intermediate step.